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mornelithe on 06 May 2015
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McDonaldsGuy said:
mornelithe said:

What lies?  Again, what lies did Brady state?  He called McNally a friend, that's about as far as I can see...The report didn't not say definitively say anything.  It said 'more likely than not', if they had caught him lying, that would've been in the first page.  It wasn't.  That's the point I'm making here.

No, it's not normal, a preponderance of the evidence is what's being misused on College campuses to destroy peoples lives, by requiring little evidence beyond a victim's complaint.  Hence UVA, Hence Duke Lacrosse, and a number of other frail cases that would've been tossed out in an actual court of law (one actually was, but the college and student harassed him, released his private info etc...).

So, brush up on the 'integrity of the game' laws, in the NFL, then take a look at the evidence required ina  court of law.  Nowhere near each other.

And again, if it was 'clear he did' the Wells report would've stated as such.  Instead, they use the term 'more probable than not' over and over, because they have no proof, they really only have circumstantial evidence, said evidence is damned by the fact that given text evidence, it looks like two employees were just fucking around with Brady's balls, to say nothing of the 16PSI balls the REFS put in the Jets game.

I do however agree, Brady not giving his cell phone looks bad...but looking bad does not mean guilty.

The difference between the colleges and the NFL is that it's not just based on words, but actual evidence. Also, in regards to the Columbia rape case (the Mattress Case), the defendant OFFERED to show his text messages which would have ELIMINATED any guilt he had which in the end he didn't need anyway - but he still OFFERED his text messages because he knew he was innocent. Brady is doing the OPPOSITE. Nuf said. End of debate.

The NFL is not a court of law, but if it was, it would DEMAND Brady to show his text messages and emails. So if anything Brady is lucky they are only finding it extremely probable he was involved.

Brady refusing to show his text messages and emails doesn't just look bad - it's basically an implied admission of guilt.

Think of it this way - the first thing Aaron did after being involved in the murders was throw away guns, DESTROY HIS CELL PHONE, and hire cleaning ladies. Basically - try to avoid showing direct evidence.

No, actually you're missing one very key component here.  The discrepency in ball PSI, still remains unaccounted for, at least, the severity of the discrepency.  Exponent was unable to account for it (which is probably why the investigation continued).  And, in the mattress girl case evidence from that kids texts were EXCLUDED.  And he was still exonerated.  But I digress.  The same level of evidence is required for both types of cases.  Look it up, if you don't believe me (It was changed recently due to integrity breaches) ProFootballTalk discussed it months ago, and I've read about several Title IX cases.

Again, Brady not 'giving his phone' (not just showing his texts, they wanted his phone...sorry, not happening), isn't an admission of anything, sure it makes him look bad.  But, it's not proof.  And Aaron didn't throw away guns, his wife did.