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Arkaign said:


What was the problem? I'm not sure it can be boiled down easily. Was it a chicken and egg paradox? If it was built, would they come? Was the 3rd party support that was only mediocre in 06-08 the reason that many non-casual fans skipped the Wii for anything beyond Nintendo IP stuff in favor of a PS360? Or were the reasons more complex?

I have my opinions, and there are facts, and neither of these are comprehensive enough to explain everything.

It simply bears common sense that a rational human being should acknowledge a number of things with the Wii when judging it in the annals of gaming history.

It's a piece of each thing, that runined Wii. Even if the game sold good. That didn't mean the system would get the big games. Capcom is a perfect example of this. All Nintendo got was a port of RE4, and two Light Gun games. No one wanted to bother downgrading their games to Wii. They were gonna be dammed either way. From fans yelling at not getting the game. To fans yelling at why the game looks like crap. So companies just took the way that saved them money. Not bring them. Even when their games sold good. So in return, people had nothing to buy. Or didn't buy, due to QA issues. Or under hate.

This does cause the chicken and the egg problem with both Wii and Wii U now. The consumer and game makers both don't want to move on the games. So they end up not exsisting. More and more people go "Screw this BS. I'll buy it somewhere else." And than, this errodes Nintendo game sales too. Wii was in a buffer zone. Where a lot of die hard's (I'm one of them) still wanted to support them. And deal with the stupid decisions. When Wii U basically repeated these issues. More people felt confortable in skipping the system. I've decided to not buy the next Nintendo system. Till I see it actually do what I want. Two times I've gotten fed up with the bad decisions. Yeah, I'll lose out on Zelda and a few other things. If Nintendo bothers with Metroid next system... But I'll have 20-30 games that I do want over 8 that I usually buy on Nintendo.

naruball said:
jmorris724 said:
30 million units of mario kart and 20 million of wii fit is not a "dust collector" like some assholes portray.

So, in your opinion, what happened to all those people who bought Mario Kart and wii fit? Wii fit U flopped bad and the wiiu version of Mario Kart has been nowhere near as successful as the wii version was. Did people not like what they played or something? How do you explain their wiiu sales?

I don't get why people get mad or insulted about this part of Wii. Yes, Wii made a lot of money. But, also had major problems. Those people weren't gamers. They saw something cool, and bought it. That's it. Once they got their fix, they stopped playing the system and moved on to other distractions. Everyone here has all bought something that they normally wouldn't have. But did, 'cause of hype. I remember buying Spice Girl lolipops because that was the thing. But I hated the taste of them. You can sugar coat it all you want. "It introduced new people to gaming." "It got lasped people back to gaming." "It sold a ton of party games." Nintendo is a busniess. They can't live off short bursts of money. You need loyalty. These people aren't that.

Ultimatly Nintendo is the culprit with their current issues. Both sides of the argument. Weather just doing what the other two is the right thing, or not. Or keep trying "blue ocean", seem equally bad. Long term image damage is what Nintendo needs to fix. And Nintendo needs those games. I keep seeing people scream; Nintendo can't just copy the competition! Unless someone can figure out a way to not just copy & paste the Sony and MS way, in order to get 3rd parties. Nintendo has really no other course of action. If they want to get sales back from the majority.