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rocketpig said:
windbane said:
rocketpig said:
windbane said:
rocketpig said:
Yes, there are ideas. The problem is that they're poorly acted, poorly written, and poorly implemented. That whole "storytelling" thing kinda flies right over Kojima's head.

Eh, gotta say I disagree. It's what hooked me into the series.


Which makes me wonder why people so readily accept mediocre storytelling in videogames yet expect so much more in cinema and novels.


It's closer to excellent than mediocre. However, gamers do accept bad story telling.


I strongly disagree. The plot is ridiculously convoluted (which some people confuse for "deep"), the pacing is terrible, and the acting is atrocious.

Ask yourself this: If The Patriots were introduced to you in a movie or novel, would you roll your eyes at the ridiculous nature of it all? If your answer is yes, why do you believe MGS has an excellent storyline? Think about it for a minute. The peripheral characters of the MGS series are unintentionally absurd and would be laughed at by everyone if they were presented in any format other than a videogame. 


The idea of the Patrioits is great. I will not spoil it for people that haven't played the game, but the method of their introduction is genius. The characters in the game are more akin to comic book characters, sure, but the ideas aren't hurt by the crazy characters. The absurd characters add a lot to the gameplay because it allows unique fights. They don't ruin the story. Oh, and comic book characters seem to be doing fine in movies, along with transforming cars.