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Materia-Blade on 25 April 2015
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Mr Puggsly said:
Materia-Blade said:

"The Wiimote doesn't have a joystick therefore it can't emulate a dual joystick gamepad unless its using motion."

wtf? what is this "joystick" you are talking about? if it's the analogue stick, the wiimote and nunchuck certainly have it.

"The support that declined first was core software, because that declined quickly. Family games and other casual stuff did well for years after"

Downplaying by dismissing things as family/casual and false statement about "core software" sales. the wii had a lot of releases untill the end of 2010 and software sales FOR ALL KINDS OF GAMES kept strong up to that point.

"Sorry, but Wii never sold core software as well as SNES/PS/PS2."

Numbers say otherwise.

"The Wii had the most casual audience a home console has ever had. Simply look at its best selling software if you need proof."

When will you stop downplaying the wii? This conversation is over.

The Nunchuck has a joystick, but not the Wiimote. For dual joysticks people had to get the Pro Controller.

No, by 2010 core software sales were abysmal on Wii. The biggest hits were Black Ops and Goldeneye. Those games achieved poor numbers compared to what 360 and PS3 were achieving in core software sales. Core gamers are the most loyal audience and Wii didn't have that, this is why Wii U is a flop.

Please show me the numbers that say Wii did as good or better at moving core software than SNES/PS1/PS2. Please show me these numbers that don't exist in our reality.

I'm not downplaying the Wii, I'm giving the facts. Wii was very successful but only a small percent of its software sales was core software. Nintendo tried to get core audiences on Wii U (but failed) because they finally realized the value of that audience in the long run.

"The Nunchuck has a joystick, but not the Wiimote. For dual joysticks people had to get the Pro Controller."

Wiimote and nunchuck should always be considered together. and although a second analogue would be great for camera controls, the wiimote far surpasses the second analogue for fps (a genre that is casual but you consider core).

"No, by 2010 core software sales were abysmal on Wii. The biggest hits were Black Ops and Goldeneye."

cod isn't core. But regardless, wii got about 20 releases in 2010 that sold at least 500k. among them are super mario galaxy 2, donkey kong country returns, metroid other m, xenoblade chronicles (japan), kirby's epic yarn, epic mickey...

"Please show me the numbers that say Wii did as good or better at moving core software than SNES/PS1/PS2. Please show me these numbers that don't exist in our reality."

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=&platform=Wii&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

Best selling mario kart, best selling non bundled 2d mario, best selling smash bros, best selling 3d mario (and a 2nd 3d mario that still beat sunshine), best selling mario party, 2nd best selling legend of zelda + numerous multimillion sellers from existing franchises + dozen million sellers from new franchises...

This is the reality and your downplaying will never change it.