Aeolus451 said:
Ckorik said:
Aeolus451 said:
Ckorik said:
Hrmmm- well my wife in particular did buy (and plays every day) her 3ds - so that *is* a console - unfortunately due to a wrist problem most console controllers are painful for her to use for extended periods of time - so she uses her computer because the keyboard/mouse combo doesn't cause her wrist pain.
Considering that over 1/2 the games she plays (batman, dead space, tomb raider, etc.) were multiplats - (and honestly considering that most games are multiplat and include PC) I don't see your point.
Outside of nintendo and 100% exclusives that were made by the company in question (hello uncharted) games aren't limited to 'consoles' anymore. I just don't see what difference it makes that these games are played on a computer vs console - this isn't a "PC master race" issue or a graphics battle - this is just flat out the same game being played on a different system - because it's enjoyable - at that point you need to put away the 'console or GTFO' attitude and realize that these women I know who play primarily on the PC can't just be ignored when it comes to a game market. Or is this an example of moving the bar - first it's 'they only play phone games' then it's 'well they aren't on consoles so...'
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Did I mention anything about PC? No.
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Duh - that's the entire point of my response (bolded parts for emphasis). You can't ignore the PC market because it's "not console." The game overlap is to large to do so for the industry as a whole.
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My quote of AlfredoTurkey was in response to what he posted and not to what you two were discussing. If you would of asked me about my post, I would of elaborated on it. You're looking for something that wasn't there in the my posts or what you thought I intended with 'em.
ESA should of had the stats seperate for home console, pc, handheld and mobile but they didnt. Was it because of laziness, ignorance or attempt to skew data? I don't know but the data is a misrepresentation of the core gaming market. Its like if I asked what were the sale hardware sales numbers for 2014 in the states and someone gave me the numbers for hardware sales in the states for 2014 with 2013 lumped in.
Just for the fun of it.
Quoted from you.
"lets see - WoW has 10m subs - and they have always trended 50/50 female. So there is 5 mil."
You're wrong. It's a bit old but it's a reliable source.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/aug/31/worldofwarcraft.pcgames
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"Anecdote about women seeming to favor PC gaming"
"Post saying CONSOLES are all that count"
"I agree"
"response to both saying you can't ignore the PC as a platform as the games overlap"
"I didn't say anything about PCs!"
Honestly you are correct there is no possible way I could take "I agree" as anything more than complete adoption of the previous post - which was about PCs by being a response to a post ... about PCs. Feel free to pretend I didn't include you in the response if this rubs your feathers the wrong way.
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You're wrong. It's a bit old but it's a reliable source.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/aug/31/worldofwarcraft.pcgames "
404 error.
Here is one for you...
http://www.shacknews.com/article/58076/nielsen-estimates-400000-female-world
Sample: 1,104,334 unique players in north america
Women: 428,621 of those.
39% - in 2008.
I have no idea what source your guardian article is using as it's unavailable - but Nielson is usually a reliable source.
