Observation Shows Overwhelming Evidence for a Creator

[DonFerrari]

o_O.Q said:

DonFerrari said:

Well that is why the guy said your whole premise comes from your lack of knowledge...

Opposition is between 2 things not between one thing and the infinite things that aren't it.

A sine wave with the same period and amplitude with 180 degrees of phase is the same wave, the opposite of it is 90 degrees wave... and a cosine wave with the same period, amplitude and phase is exactaly equal the sine wave with 90 degrees phase... but even so they aren't opposite...

A harmonic is exemplified by a sine and cosine wave put together, and even so they aren't zero sum. And what would be an opposite of harmonic??? All that isn't harmonic (again infinite).

 

Nothing you brought is really explaining or proving the existence or non-existence of the creator... they just shows that within our limited knowledge and math it makes sense and logic. That shows that we have some inteligence not that there was an inteligent creator. You are assuming the same that theists assume, if we are inteligent them there must be something more inteligent than us that created us.

Also we during the centuries learned a lot from observing the rocks and animals... we still observe and ask questions to the rocks in the space, and they answer, the problem is that we take a lot of time to understand the answer. And most animals have a lot of inteligence and are capable of things you aren't... their inteligence fits their need.

you know its pretty rich that you could post this 

"Well that is why the guy said your whole premise comes from your lack of knowledge..."

then post this

"A sine wave with the same period and amplitude with 180 degrees of phase is the same wave, the opposite of it is 90 degrees wave... and a cosine wave with the same period, amplitude and phase is exactaly equal the sine wave with 90 degrees phase... but even so they aren't opposite..."

 

for the last time you are wrong the reason why the waves cancel is because a 180 degree wave out of phase with the orignal is its inverse or opposite

as i said an example of this principle in action is noise cnacellation if you do not understand the principle go and research it before you reply to me

 

" the opposite of it is 90 degrees wave... and a cosine wave with the same period"

 

i'm going to repeat one last time that is incorrect the inverse of a wave is itself with a 180 degree phase difference

 

"You are assuming the same that theists assume, if we are inteligent them there must be something more inteligent than us that created us."

 

well its a fairly obvious correlation if we deem the discovering of maths by humans to be due to their intelligence then by extension some greater intelligence must have had a hand in createing maths to begin with

how you came to the conclusion that a cosine is the inverse of a sine is beyond me but i'm telling you for the last time you are wrong

 

"Also we during the centuries learned a lot from observing the rocks and animals"

 

true but we consider ourselves to be above them because of our intelligence we would never expect them to come up with complex mathematical constructs... we expect that to come from other entities with intelligence

I understand the principle of noise cancelation... and yes the right phase is 180 not 90, I was confounding the invertion of signal of sine/cosine function to the phase between them... in fact cosine graph is the same than sine graph with 90 degrees phase... so cosine plus 90 phase would negate a sine the sames as a sine 180 phase would negate a sine. But even so sine 180 isn't the opposite of sine (or -sine isn't opposite of sine) in concept, they just goes to the final result you contemplate.

Is dark the opposite of light??? Nope it's the same as in temperature, a scale of luminance. And even so a "complete black" cavity still radiate when it's hot. So again there is no proof of inteligent creator just because some things have perfect opposites. Much of what we think are opposites aren't discrete entities but just two poles of one scale.

Not all humans believe they are above animals or even more inteligent... And even though animals can't write or talk to us so we wouldn't see their thoughs they use very complex mathematical constructs by instinct. Do you think you as a very bright human could fly by yourself or using a plane without studying it? And even flying do you make all the calculations or is the aircraft already prepared to do it??? Birds do all of that all the time while flying.