Observation Shows Overwhelming Evidence for a Creator

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DonFerrari said:

o_O.Q said:

 

"so you can't say exponential or any other curve is the opposite of straight just because they aren't straight."

 

i didn't i was asking you to give me an example but anyway i would think the opposite of any line infinite or not would be its inverse

 

"Just because two waves can cancel each other that doesn't mean they are opposite"

 

well actually it does 

 

"cosine isn't the opposite of sine"

 

i didn't say it was i said that to cancel a sine wave you use a wave with the same magnitude and frequency but 180 degress out of phase or in other words you use the inverse of that sine wave or its opposite

 

"So it would be silly to say the opposite of sine wave is a 90 degree phase sine wave don't you think? "

 

well i didn't you brought up cosine waves not me 

to clarify no cosine waves cannot cancel their sine waves however the inverse of sine waves cancel sine waves

 

"Things in nature aren't necessarily opposites, it's just that for human brains the concept of opposite is easier to understand."

well yeah i can't disagree that we have to use concepts to interpret reality with and those concepts have to be discarded or changed wiith time as we gain more understanding

Well that is why the guy said your whole premise comes from your lack of knowledge...

Opposition is between 2 things not between one thing and the infinite things that aren't it.

A sine wave with the same period and amplitude with 180 degrees of phase is the same wave, the opposite of it is 90 degrees wave... and a cosine wave with the same period, amplitude and phase is exactaly equal the sine wave with 90 degrees phase... but even so they aren't opposite...

A harmonic is exemplified by a sine and cosine wave put together, and even so they aren't zero sum. And what would be an opposite of harmonic??? All that isn't harmonic (again infinite).

 

Nothing you brought is really explaining or proving the existence or non-existence of the creator... they just shows that within our limited knowledge and math it makes sense and logic. That shows that we have some inteligence not that there was an inteligent creator. You are assuming the same that theists assume, if we are inteligent them there must be something more inteligent than us that created us.

Also we during the centuries learned a lot from observing the rocks and animals... we still observe and ask questions to the rocks in the space, and they answer, the problem is that we take a lot of time to understand the answer. And most animals have a lot of inteligence and are capable of things you aren't... their inteligence fits their need.

you know its pretty rich that you could post this 

"Well that is why the guy said your whole premise comes from your lack of knowledge..."

then post this

"A sine wave with the same period and amplitude with 180 degrees of phase is the same wave, the opposite of it is 90 degrees wave... and a cosine wave with the same period, amplitude and phase is exactaly equal the sine wave with 90 degrees phase... but even so they aren't opposite..."

 

for the last time you are wrong the reason why the waves cancel is because a 180 degree wave out of phase with the orignal is its inverse or opposite

as i said an example of this principle in action is noise cnacellation if you do not understand the principle go and research it before you reply to me

 

" the opposite of it is 90 degrees wave... and a cosine wave with the same period"

 

i'm going to repeat one last time that is incorrect the inverse of a wave is itself with a 180 degree phase difference

 

"You are assuming the same that theists assume, if we are inteligent them there must be something more inteligent than us that created us."

 

well its a fairly obvious correlation if we deem the discovering of maths by humans to be due to their intelligence then by extension some greater intelligence must have had a hand in createing maths to begin with

how you came to the conclusion that a cosine is the inverse of a sine is beyond me but i'm telling you for the last time you are wrong

 

"Also we during the centuries learned a lot from observing the rocks and animals"

 

true but we consider ourselves to be above them because of our intelligence we would never expect them to come up with complex mathematical constructs... we expect that to come from other entities with intelligence