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Tachikoma said:
Samus Aran said:

Nope, Nintendo. HH + HC = bigger profits. For the short time that it was available the GBA sold like a beast, was sold at a profit and the cheap Nintendo games also sold a ton.

It's not moving goalposts. The only thing these companies care for is profit. It's litterally the only goalpost.

There's not a single company that would chose the PS3 situation over the GC. Looking at just hardware sales is pointless. You know this tachi.

PlayStation 1's generation rival was the 64, both were 6th generation consoles, I mentioned moving goalposts because i suspected you would bolster the numbers by adding handhelds to home consoles, the problem is, handhelds are on their own generational timeline, so adding them and calling it "nintendos 5th generation" is disingenuous.

The more amusing part is, even if you go ahead and combine and split the handheld sales based on matching years for the generations of home consoles, the PlayStation 1 and 2 still sold more, and heres the thing too, N64 and gameboy/gbc/gba games cost more to manufacture than PlayStation 1 and 2 disks, because PCB silicon and the associated memory chips, logic and for many games, attached battery, costs more per unit than disk based games did, so the profit margin for PlayStation 1 and 2 games was notably higher, increasing further as each generation progressed.

Then theres the pricing, well lets just look at it shall we?

$89.99 for the hardware, $19.99 for the games, even though later games would release at slightly higher prices, compare that to the following year:


Some games stil $20, some up to $35, but a range of systems for $49.99 a pop or 59.99 for the pocket.

Yet that same year?


PS1 was still $199.99 and games averaging $45, a console that eventually went on to sell over 120m units.

Closely followed by the PS2 that went on to sell over 155m units.

I'm sorry but with higher profit margins and much higher unit sales, all logic and verifiable data points to the PS1 and PS2 winning the 5th and 6th gen in every concievable manner, whether you fudge your numbers by including handhelds of different generations or not.

The information is all published online. Nintendo posted higher operating income for most years than the gaming sector of Sony. They also sell much more first party games.

http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/index.php/2008/05/30/playstation-2-may-have-won-last-generations-sales-battle-but-it-lost-the-console-war/