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Torillian said:
Blob said:


Funnily enough I know a theoretical physicist who told me that once you reach that level they stop teaching orbital theories and basically say they don't believe it. I'll have to ask him what their theoretical model currently is at some point. 

You'll have to let me know.  I'm sure it's a simplification of reality that works for us chemists, but I'd be curious to know how it differs from what physicists who look at these things in detail consider.  

I do know that it isn't about discrete orbits around an atom but more that there are electron clouds around the nucleus with a certain probability to find the electron in any given space arond it.  The idea that the elctrons only have specific quantized states that they can be in comes does seem to hold water as the absorbance lines from elements are very crisp and not the continuum you would expect if the elctrons were totally free around the nucleus.  My understanding of it is that because the electron acts as a wave as well as a particle there are only certain distances around the nucleus where it can exist and the waveform of the electron will not destructively interfere with itself.  

Anything beyond that level of understanding though I would have to read up on.  

 

Yeah the current model is a simplified version just to get the point across to the laymen. I'll have to remember to ask him as I keep forgetting or end up discussing other things with him.

So you're a chemist? In what field?