Soriku said:
HollyGamer said:
Soriku said:
HollyGamer said:
Science will never able to "explain" God because it exist on different realm, plan and dimension and with limitness of human brain, it's imposible for human to explain and defining about God as entity, except for His creations. The science it self is a creation from the Creator to help human recognise their Creator.
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Science will never able to "explain" the Flying Spaghetti Monster because it exist on different realm, plan and dimension and with limitness of human brain, it's imposible for human to explain and defining about Flying Spaghetti Monster as entity, except for His creations. The pasta maker it self is a creation from the Creator to help human recognise their Creator's delicious pasta.
You can't use special pleading in an argument. Also it took sure took God a long time to impart us with vaccines huh? Not actual research and trial and error...
Also if anything, science is making us realize a creator isn't necessary. Seems this perfect Creator's plan is backfiring.
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"Science will never able to "explain" the Flying Spaghetti Monster because it exist on different realm, plan and dimension and with limitness of human brain, it's imposible for human to explain and defining about Flying Spaghetti Monster as entity, except for His creations. The pasta maker it self is a creation from the Creator to help human recognise their Creator's delicious pasta."
What??? we are talking the Omnipotent here not (Pasta) human creation, anything that u can see from your eyes and thing with science it's His creation, but not the Creator, yet still you just prove that you unable to prove what God is, and dont bring Cristian God that resembles human, that is false God.
"You can't use special pleading in an argument. Also it took sure took God a long time to impart us with vaccines huh? Not actual research and trial and error..."
War, poverty, deadly virus, dead, and crime, is just exist because God allow it to happen in this logical world, this world is just a test for human and it will not exist for eternity. everything that create in this universe is for human kind, from animal, plant, earth only for the purpose of worshiping God. Even God create dead to help human, dead is not the end for everything.
and why the hell you discusiing this, isn't we were discusing
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My point is you can't just say "God exists on a different plane, we can't detect or fathom him" and expect that to be taken seriously. You can say that about anything that is not readily observable, like the Flying Spaghetti Monster. How do you know the FSM doesn't exist? If you can't prove your God exists and you have to resort to the "he's not even in this universe" argument, I can dismiss his existence quite easily.
Also is this part "and dont bring Cristian God that resembles human, that is false God." supposed to be ironic? If you're Christian, Jesus was a human. Even Yahweh described in the Old Testament acts just like a human and has human-like qualities (like jealousy), not to mention the whole "I created you in my image" stuff.
You're not addressing my point that "creation" is not perfect at all.
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No just Big No, FSM is obviously a creation based on item or event that already exist and observable which are: Spaghetti, flying, and monster. But not with God, FSM does not mark some evidence unlike God with His creation and proved to be exist within His Creation. Again you didn't answer my question how the natural law was created, how the law of physics was created???
"Also is this part "and don't bring Cristian God that resembles human, that is false God." supposed to be ironic? If you're Christian, Jesus was a human. Even Yahweh described in the Old Testament acts just like a human and has human-like qualities (like jealousy), not to mention the whole "I created you in my image" stuff"
I said many times his creation cannot resembles the creator, how come God with human like with two hand's can control massive universe or White color skin Jesus God is resembles human while human have many skin colors, how come God have a nose like human while human cannot breath in water while God can exist everywhere. and how come God with 2 eyes able to see universe out side, and inside, like i said, Cristian (well today Cristian is a religion that Create people like u, it's not logic and only depends on dogma.) like i said I am proposing another religion not Christianity.
"You're not addressing my point that "creation" is not perfect at all."
and u my friend cannot addressing what is prefect what is not in life, perfect in life creations mean is that the object is exist and fully materialize, whether it's defect or not is another different story. if human is deffect or a baby is deffect then it simply mean to be like that. the same goes with why we have different type of mountain and why we have different type of eyes, skin colors, fat, skiney etc.
