alternine said:
torok said:
Anyway, this discussion is fruitless. All I see on this thread is Nintendo fans downplaying Sony's contribution because they believe only Ninty can do something to change the industry. All 3 companies had specific big impacts and changed the landscape in different areas. But it seems like everyone prefers what fits their agenda.
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generic-user-1 said:
why did the PS win? Cds and 3rd party support. the saturn had cd and would have had 3rd party support if sony wouldnt have entered the market. sony hadnt any 1st party killer apps, the tech wasnt better or cheaper than the rest. sony was just at the right place at the right time and didnt made stupid mistakes.
sure the gaming market would be different with sega and nintendo at the top and many others that try to make a good console but it wouldnt be much smaller, and it would be alot stronger and not in a crisis like todays gaming industrie(the 3rd party developer are bleeding a lot of money)
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Saturn couldn't do it. They launched 4 months earlier on the US and flopped hard. The PS1 surpassed its 4-month install base in the first few weeks. The PS1 tech was much better than the Saturn one. Saturn used 2 processors in an obtuse configuration that made it hell to develop for. It was weaker and demanded a lot of effort to simply reach parity with the PS1.
Sega wouldn't be on top. They fucked up the Sega CD, 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast in a sequence. Sega post-93 wasn't able to take one single good decision. Sega killed Sega and they were amazingly good at it.
The game industry isn't in a crisis. What's your base to affirm that? PS4 and X1 sold 30M combined consoles in a single year. A lot of new IPs are posting massive sales numbers. Indies now have easy publishing. The biggest issue with PS360 was dev costs allienating the smaller publishers. The improved digital distribution for smaller games actually solved it. You talk about bleeding money while 2K, Activision, EA and other are actually doing great. For each publisher that has issues, we have some publishers that became huge recently, like Warner and Bethesda.
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Pretty much this. Its ridiculous. And to the people saying that "oh Sony just got lucky" it kills your credibility and makes it hard to take you seriously.
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Really. I mean we could use the same excuse for Nintendo and Sega. Nintendo got lucky that the video game market crashed before they decided to jump in. That way there was little serious competition when people were ready to game, again. Sega got luck that Nintendo screwed up by restricting 3rd parties, that all they had to do was give them more freedom to get great support.
