Who do you believe is the most over rated developer?

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naznatips said:

BenKenobi88 said:

There's your problem.

The console versions of Valve games suck in comparison to the original PC games. Less players standard (16 compared to 24), lag and bugs, slower, much slower controls, etc.

If you want to hate Valve, whatever, but I'm not going to pay attention to you until you try their games on the PC. Because believe it or not, not all games are best on consoles.

Exactly. It's an issue of gameplay. Valve games are designed with the precision and speed of a mouse in mind. FPSes built for PCs and ported to consoles (CoD, HL2, UT3, etc.) will never deliver the true experience on consoles because that's simply not what the stages, guns, puzzles, and pacing were designed for.

Also, I still don't understand how you can criticizes games that you can't give any details on past the first few minutes Griffin.

 I never had any problems with the controls, maybe PC gamers have a hard problem playing console shooters but i don't.  Having 16-24 players in TF2 would not of increased the fun of the game, for me anyways, and i never played the game for more then an hour, so i never noticed much lag, and no bugs.

 I've also played CoD4 on a PC and the PS3, and there is no difference for me between the games for the controls.  I have also played Unreal games on the PC's and on consoles and the controls come off as the same.  I have also played doom3 and BF games and there is nothing special about the controls for the PC.