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Hynad said:
sc94597 said:

1. My main argument was that they weren't succesful (in making open-worlds a standard) despite their attempts. Xenoblade was successful because the focus of the game was on this feature and it did it well. Reception is important in determining whether or not something is revised. 

2. I contextualized the statement "highly polished" with "as" and "in that area." I never meant to imply that the game isn't (as) highly polished in general, or even highly polished in that area. Just not as much as Xenoblade. 

3. Dragon Quest VIII is one of my favorite JRPG's. And I agree 100%. It perfected and modernized the classic JRPG formula. Xenoblade on the other-hand brought relevant a new type of JRPG. It was thought that the JRPG genre could not have vast, open, and monoscaled worlds and Xenoblade showed that it was false, hence reinventing the genre. Maybe not in every way, but in that way in particular, yes. I'm not saying it is the standard of JRPGs, but I would say that because of its critical success JRPGs have been moving toward more open-world gameplay formats with horizontal questing, and hence recreating a standard. 

Basically, the only thing you mean to say is that you love Xenoblade a whole lot. 

You love the settings and world of Xenoblade and that makes you say things that just aren't true. Illustrated by the fact that you admit DQVIII did what XB did years prior to it. You talk about the scale of the world as if it's a way to reinvent something. It is not. You're telling me that all a developer needs to do to reinvent something is make everything to scale and add miles of maps to their world? Sorry, but that's shallow a view at best. And seems to be only a way to elevate Xenoblade beyond its actual merits.  

And seriously, who ever thought that "the JRPG genre could not have vast, open and monoscaled worlds"? Never once heard that claim made by any reasonable person.

He already gave a detailed explanation as to why xenoblade was amazing. yet, you keep ignoring it and saying he is talking out of bias.