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Hynad on 14 April 2015
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sc94597 said:
Hynad said:

How hypocritical of you to talk about ad hominem.

You haven't made any arguments. All I've read so far is you saying that you love Xenoblade in part because of its scale, trying to pretend it reinvented a genre and set a new standard. Despite said standard having been there all along and done by other games before it. I say It brought back that standard.  You don't agree. Instead, you're trying to force your view of the game on me, and make me say things that I just don't see in that game, despite, yes, having played it (and yes, Dragon Quest VIII as well. Who do you think you are? xD).

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this topic. You seem to be way too emotionally invested in this topic for me to get a reasonable discussion about this.

Your entire post was ad hominem. How would I respond other than likewise? What else was there to respond to? Of course I will target you as well, as apparently in your own eyes you are unbiased and everyone else is too in love with Xenoblade to see the truth of the matter. 

I mentioned a combination of things that made Xenoblade's open-world gameplay different from prior games which attempted as such. Who did you think you were when you made the assumption that I didn't play many JRPGs? What makes you better that you can make the assumption about me and I can't make a similar assumption about you? 

@ Bolded Right, you werethe one resorting to logic fallacies such as ad hominems and strawmen based on a perceive biased and I  am the one emotionally invested? Please. Your entire existence in this thread is to get reactions from fans of said game because you feel it might be overrated. 

I talked about DQ VIII and you end up saying you doubt I have played it. I brought it to the discussion and you said that. Hence the "who do you think you are".

Like, seriously.

And you take this all as if I'm saying the game isn't as good as people say it is. I am not saying this at all. What makes a game good isn't whether or not it reinvents the wheel or creates an entirely new genre or standard. If that was so, games like Uncharted and The Last of Us wouldn't be considered good. What makes a game good is the sum of its parts. Be them parts that existed before in any fashion or entirely new ideas. Xenoblade doesn't reinvent anything. It doesn't set new rules or bring anything original to the table, outside of its settings.

What it does, is takes many things that worked well and were greatly appreciated in other games of its genre and bring them all together in an extremely well crafted package. Do you still think I believe the game to be overrated, after I make such a statement? Besides, I don't use that word. I think people calling something overrated display an ounce too much of self-absorbtion and appear to me as incapable to understand that not every games are made to catter to their particular needs.