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Brii on 09 April 2015
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vivster said:
Brii said:

The problem is that females and minorities have been oppressed for hundres of years. It's easy to claim that "Boom, equal rights. That's all it takes.  We freed the slaves and allowed women to vote, so they should be just as successful as I am now." but that's dismissing the notion that women and minorities start out from gererally lower societal standings, and it's historically diffcult to move up from one's birth class. Frankly, it's more about classism than gender or race, but such groups have been oppressed are more prominent in lower classes and have had far less education on average.

It does take some nurturing to get them on the same level, and that at times involves compromise and understanding from all sides.

Good point.

Do you think the policies we put in place for minorities to grow and be more excepted will be removed once they achieve maximum equality or do you think we will never achieve true equality?

I honestly can't say. I'd like to think there will be a time where there don't need to be policies that give a boost to certain groups, but that's also asking for humans in general to be accepting and willing to compromise. Male or female, regardless of race. That might be a tall order. Right now, no one is willing to budge, and that just makes the situation worse. It's like denying a starving man an extra piece of food, even though you're full are at least less hungry. But you also don't want to feel guilt and blame for having been well-fed previously, so I do understand that hesitance and defiance. The blame is thrown around too much, and that makes people less willing to help and more inclined to find reasons that it's not their fault.

What's frightening for me is notions like your previous one (not trying to call you out, just an example!), where someone like me could have been considering distruptive to the dymanic, and therefore not hired, and therefore never bettered myself JUST because I am a woman. It creates a horrible cycle of being denied the ability to improve myself, while also being told it's my gender's fault. What if that happened to a female politician? Politics are primarily male dominated, after all.