Do you think Nintendo will be relevent next gen?

[Mr Khan]

UltimateUnknown said:

RolStoppable said:
Yes, they will be relevant.

They'll do it by ignoring the major third party publishers and focusing on their own strengths.

Seriously, did any 3rd parties ask for the gamepad to be included with the Wii U?

It's clear Nintendo did not bother asking 3rd parties when deciding how their console will be made. I remember Pete Hines from Bathesda saying this about the Wii U:

"If you're going to just decide, 'we're going to make a box, and this is how it's going to work and you should make games for it,' well, no. No is my answer."

While on the other hand he had this to say about MS and Sony:

"You have to do what Sony and Microsoft has been doing with us for a long time, and it's not that every time we met with them we got all the answers we wanted, but they involved us very early on and talked to folks like Bethesda and Gearbox [sic] and saying, 'here's what we're doing, here's what we're planning, here's how we think it's going to work.' To hear what we thought, from our tech guys and from an experience standpoint, what we thought."

This is coming from Bathesda who are a big 3rd party publisher. Just because Nintendo got a 3rd party executive on stage doesn't change how they ignored them while making the box itself. Ultimately that's why all the 3rd parties left them. The Wii U was Nintendo doing their own thing and hoping 3rd parties would support them.

Right: Nintendo should do their own thing and just not give a damn about what the third parties will do. This can be achieved if the device is profitable and unified architecture to allow Nintendo to make mostly the same games across console and handheld. If it's cheap, accessible, and loaded down with good Nintendo games, it will sell and the third parties will at least have to throw it a bone or two.