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shikamaru317 said:
theprof00 said:
 

I don't know why you editted out the rest of the post, can you please not omit pertinent information when having a discussion based on the text?

"Now MS is working on their own streaming device that 'hint hint' specifically looks at PC to TV streaming. PC being where all the Xbox games suddenly are available.
MS has no need for a box."

Yes you are right. These devices are all streaming from phones, with phone graphics. They are not on par with xbox1 or PC. But MS is coming out with a device that would stream from PC. Therefore, your argument doesn't hold up because once the product is available, it invalidates your objection...because there would be a device capable. (again, MS is actually doing this. I didn't post a link just for fun)

I didn't edit out anything, that was your whole post I quoted xD

PC streaming services still aren't ready to be implemented, Nvidia's recently announced streaming service has 150ms lag, far too much lag for many genres of games, and that's on a good internet connection, can you imagine how much lag someone living in a rural area that only has access to satellite internet would get?  I agree that streaming services will be quite popular eventually, but I don't think that'll be until next-gen at the earliest, the internet infrastructure just isn't there yet. But you act like this will only affect Xbox, eventually Playstation will be largely obsolete as well, it'll also be replaced by streaming services eventually.

I apologize, I see I made two posts with the same line, probably because I copying and pasting from another thread.

mmm...You're slightly mistaken. Nvidia cloud is an internet based streaming service. The dongle MS is working on is a PC to TV streaming, similarly to how Chromecast can stream from an Ipad to a tv with a tenth of that latency. There is no internet connection involved here, it's just a dongle, ike the others that additionally has the power of a PC (from your office or den) streaming to it. So far as I know, none of the current dongles do that, aside from one that Valve is coming out with later in the year.

Also, I agree that playstation will eventually be replaced by some streaming service or another. They've already started actually. They are the first to begin the transition to streaming. However, the ps4 is also making them a ton of money, and is profitable on the hardware, so there is no imminent need to completely transition, nor as you said, is the internet infrastructure available.