Anyone think the Dreamcast is over-rated now?

[disolitude]

BMaker11 said:

disolitude said:

BMaker11 said:

I said this a while ago:

We are nostalgic for the DC because it got canned. But was it the "best console ever", as some have said? No!

Yes, it had great games like Sonic Adventure, Power Stone, Shenmue, 2K Sports games exclusive, Jet Set Radio, etc. We're fond of those games and they are the shining examples of the DCs library. But we never stop and remember: that's all it had. DC was on the market for what, 2 years? When thought about rationally, does its library really compare to Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, GTA, MGS, SoTC, Dragon Quest, God of War, Jak and Daxter, DMC, Okami (I could go on forever) etc. for the PS2? What about Halo, Blinx, Jade Empire, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Forza, Morrowind, KOTOR, etc for the Xbox? And that's just games from the same generation as DC.

As I said when I first made this comment: let's keep our fond memories of the DC as just that. Memories. Because when you're objective about the console, it's not even in the top 5 of best consoles ever.

You forgot Code Veronic, Soul Calibur and Sonic Adventure 2 as it is superior to the original. The massive titles you listed all came out in a year and a half. How long did it take for PS2 to release all of the games you listed? like 7 years?

Also you're just generalizing here. Dreamcast had a shitload of gems no one talks about as Metacritic doesn't give them praise, but they were awesome games.

Ikaruga, Alien Front Online, Headhunter, Demolition Racer, Test Drive Lemans, Toy Comander, Swords of Berserk, Gigawing 2...all amazingly fun games where it mattered the most, gameplay

Fuck, it had few games released in the last 2 years that are better than some major PS4 and Xbox One games. Gunlord and Sturmwind.

Look at this awesomeness... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zy2k_iwJDY

You're telling me that you'd rather play The Order over that?

Actually, FFX (2001), KH (2002), GTA3 (2001), MGS2 (2001), SoTC (2005), DQVIII (2004), Jak and Daxter (2001), DMC1 (2001), Okami (2006). Most of them came out in the first 2 years, none of them took 7 years, and I could have easily picked other games (such at GT3 or Ratchet and Clank) that came out relatively early in the PS2s life.

And the Xbox had it's library in and out in 4 years, yet we still got the games I listed and more.

I never said DC wasn't a fun console, that the games sucked, etc. I'm just saying, it only lasted 2 years. There are great games in there, but because the console got discontinued, there's limitations to the amount of games it had. All those great games you named, I could go like for like with the PS2, PS1, OG Xbox, SNES, etc. and have more games on each console, to boot. Even the "gems no one talks about because of Metacritic". And they'd all be great games with great gameplay. Had the DC lasted longer, we'd be having a very different conversation.

Fair enough...while your stance is more resonable in the post above, I still think Dreamcast smokes all consoles if you apply the formula of:

(Awesome games releases * fun factor)/duration of time

I had PS2 at launch and it was absolutely garbage for almost 1 year after its release. First fun game worth playing was Twisted Metal Black which came out in July 2001... up until then the console was literally a DVD player. 

Also Dreamcast could do cool things, like play emulators, homebrew, surf the net, play Quake 3 online... There was always something fresh and cool to do with the Dreamcast...

Maybe I am just a dreamcast fanatic but the fact that half of the board to this day is still defending it is proof that the console was pretty sweet. 

For the record, my Dreamcast today has an SD card reader installed called GDEMU, and a 128 GB memory card in it with over 150 games preinstalled. It also lets me use Playstation 2 Wireless Force controllers for some cordless gaming. It also upscales to 720p HDMI with an adapter and looks really good.

Still play it at least once per month.