What was the whole point of Kinect 2?

[Dusk]

oniyide said:

Dusk said:

@Bolded That's kind of funny this gen. That's exactly what all three systems have done so far, as far as home consoles go, for the 8th gen. Sony only just released a software update of a major feature they were talking up before the system was released. The sleep/stand-by mode. So I would most certainly argue it hasn't been proven by sales in the slightest. 

Of course it's MS's burden to bare. They have done what they have done and it's entirely on them. You speak as if I have made some excuses for their goofs, I haven't in the slightest. In my opinion they went entirely the wrong way with the X1. When they should have really shown what the Kinect could do and make it that 'must have' piece of tech, like the Wii or PS4, they decided to play the exact same game as Sony with the PS4 and almost go carbon copy, just slightly inferior. So despite the hard core Xbox/halo and some of their exclusives, there isn't much of a reason to get an X1 over a PS4 now. The main selling factor since they are almost twins almost entirely comes down to price right now. X1 sold like crazy when the price was reduced over the holidays, there is a reason for that. The biggest thing that the PS4 has going for it right now is its momentum and people wanting to get what their friends have got. 

not really. you cant really compare the sleep/stand-by thing to Kinect. Lets be honest they werent pushing that anywhere near to what MS was pushing with Kinect not even close. MS went so far to say the system wouldnt work without it (which was clearly a lie). Honestly Sony really hasnt pushed much features which IMHO is why its doing as well as it is against the others. 

Wasnt insutianting you were making excuses for them, just making a point. The didnt play the same game as PS4 at all. Pretty sure SOny didnt try to push a set top box with DRM and all that. NOW they are doing carbon copy, but can you blame them? What they were doing wasnt working so it makes sense to follow the leader. The thing is there was NEVER really a reason to get xboxone over PS4 again as the sales have shown. The Kinect just hurt them by having to have the price increase a 100 bucks more which people were NOT willing to pay for. Price always played a factor. 

Are you kidding me? Sony hasn't pushed any features? They have had crazy marketing and pushed the 'power' aspect down throats like crazy. Once again, they initially were planning on bundling their camera just like MS did with the kinect. Yeah, who cares if MS lied about the Kinect, it wasn't a necessary lie. They should have said something along the lines of 'sure the system can run without it, but you aren't going to want it to because...' then show something mind melting that can only be done with the Kinect, but they had all but given up on it already and hadn't done much of anything to support it. 

Actually, Sony has pushed a set top box with DRM. It is what is it. If you don't want to see it then so be it. Them forcing the consumer to pay for online is a form of DRM, it is withholding portions or even full games behind a pay will with full control. Not to mention some games if you aren't connected to an internet connection can be comepletely unplayable due to a lack of day 1 patch available. It might not directly be DRM, but it might as well be. There is also the part where Sony changed their presentation shortly before they went on stage and the enigmatic patch where the PS4 wouldn't work without it day one. It might have been there, it might not have. So I can't say one way or the other. Either way, MS reversed their stand on it so it makes no difference. Both will slowly work their way to more DRM as time goes by. 

Yes, I can blame them for going carbon copy. I absolutely can. They have essentially settled for second place by default. MS isn't in it for the profit of xbox, if they are they seem to have failed by all the information out there. I don't think following the leader is good, because it just puts you in line where you will stay. There is nothing that will encourage any growth or expansion. As a business decision it seems crazy. They need something to differentiate themselves and make them stand out and be noticed. 

The only reason there wasn't a reason to buy an Xbox over a PS4 is because they never showed one. It's like they gave up instantly from the get go. But to be honest, there isn't much of a reason to buy a PS4 over an Xbox either. $100 bucks is not an exhorbitant amount of money and people would gladly spend it, all someone needs to do is give them a reason to do so. Take Apple for example. Their computers aren't anything special, nor are their phones, tablets or their watches, but at one point they gave people a reason to pay more for their product and it is continuing to work for them. They made their brand elite, and people wanted that, that was enough of a reason for many people. Kinect might not have been that thing for the X1, but it likely could have been utilized better to at least give an attempt at it, then people would have been happy to pay. Same reason that some people will go out and buy a 900 graphics card for those few extra frames with all the graphics enabled. Or go buy a Merc instead of a Kia. If money really were as big of a deal for people as many would have some believe, things like skylanders, disney infinity and Amiibo's wouldn't exist, or DLC. People are willing to spend the money, they just need a reason.