S.T.A.G.E. said:
JustBeingReal said:
LOL you can't be serious! It's not Microsoft's E3 to lose at all when it comes to expected games, it's most definitely Sony's. I mean when you list the potentials for each Sony's has a lot more potentials, mainly because their stuff hasn't had any gameplay from a previous event, besides Uncharted 4.
Now stuff we have a good idea of would be 1)Horizon (Guerrilla Games new IP, presumed in development at Amsterdam), a new 3)Killzone or 4)Resistance (either or both could be worked on by Guerrilla Cambridge). 5)God of War 4 or a restart of the series. 6)Gran Turismo 7, 7)Ratchet & Clank (this could be a huge Fall 2015 title, especially with the Movie Release happening around the same time), 8)Sly Cooper (is getting a movie release next year), 9)Media Molecule's New IP, 10)Quantic Dream's New IP.
11)Dinosaurum Game's new IP Without Memory. 12)The Last Guardian, 13)Agent.
14)Sony Bend's New IP, 15)Level 5's game, which could be a new Ni No Kuni, White Knight Chronicles or a new IP, 16)Gravity Rush 2, 17)Sony London (Maybe The Getaway or a full Heist game, 18)Sucker Punch.
Morpheus Games, which some of the above could potentially have Morpheus VR features built into, namely a full Heist game, Media Molecule's new IP, Gran Turismo 7, maybe Killzone or Resistance, possibly even Quantic Dream's new game.
For Microsoft the major new ones would be 1)Banjo, 2)Gears 4 or a refresh of the series, 3)Forza 6, 4)Kameo, 5)Scalebound, 6)Halo 5, 7)Crackdown, maybe 8)Phantom Dust, but that game's been getting a lot of negative info surrounding it, like it may have been canned or changing of developers, so it's probably way off from any potential release. 9)Battletoads.
Quantum Break has been shown several times already, people know what to expect from that already, same goes for Killer Instinct, it'll just be character and stage additions, it's not really a compelling new title like the ones mentioned above.
Halo 5 has had gameplay shown for it's multiplayer already, while it will be exciting to see single player gameplay, it's a game that has already had gameplay shown for the game.
Really Sony has about 2X the potential games, then there's also the stuff we really have no clue about, like 3rd party partnerships that happen on the quiet, both sides have those. There's also unknown new developers that both companies could have been building studios for in the background.
It's definitely Sony's E3 to lose out of both Sony and Microsoft.
Nintendo are an interested company, really we only know for sure that Zelda and Starfox are getting gameplay and some new details for those games, it's fair to say that the likes of Devil's Third, maybe Splatoon and Xenoblade could have something if they aren't released before E3. It's possible a new F-Zero, Metroid, core 3D Mario game are announced and potentially unveiled. Largely Nintendo's stuff will be a surprise.
Overall I think Sony has the most potential, simply because their devs have been quiet for a long time. Microsoft are actually the platform holder that has the least potential to show new games they've never announced before.
Nintendo could be next on my list and most gamers, because they seem to have a lot more potential surprises than Microsoft.
If past MS E3 conferences have taught us anything it's that they mainly focus on 3rd party games, so we can probably expect to see new stuff from EA, Activision. They'll put a lot of focus behind Halo, Tomb Raider and Forza 6, but we already know about that stuff coming and Tomb Raider isn't an exclusive to Xbox One, it's coming to 360 and it's also a timed exclusive, which will definitely be coming to PS4 and PC in 2016.
MS promises games to be shown at E3, but what they normally end up doing is showing 3rd party multiplats, announcing new games with CG, both Sony and Nintendo actually surprise with new announcements and mainly with gameplay and it's been the case for the last 5 E3s at the least, if not more since the beginning of the 7th gen.
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Both Microsoft and Sony rely on third party and yes, I know that Sony has proven time and time again that despite having less studios that they can outdevelop Microsoft. Thats just this thing, Microsoft hasn't been fighting them with their studios but with outside third party and paying for them to develop not only their own IP's but new IP's. Its the smart way to go when they cant internally beat Sony at their own game. What I am saying is Microsoft is killing it with their games right now. Microsoft has the ability to stay quiet more easily than Sony because no one expects more from them. Everytime we see a leak its always at Sony. We know The Last Guardian trademark was found, we knew about Bloodborne before it was unveiled because it was leaked and we also knew about Until Dawn and I believe we knew about Helldivers was coming as well. With Microsoft we never knew about Scalebound or Sunset Overdrive until it was announced their E3's. Microsoft has a tighter lid than Sony. We know to expect God of War 4, Uncharted 4 footage, Guerillas new IP and most likely GT7 will be announced. Microsoft could have even more coming that hasnt even been mentioned yet. Forget about the fact that Sony's winning. Everyones looking at Sony because they are expecting new games from them regardless. I am saying in terms of exciting new games Scalebound, Quantum Break, Tomb Raider 2 and Halo 5 will have gameplay showcases as well reveals of Gears 4 is coming and Microsoft will more than likely will come with new announcements from outside studios that they've published games for. As long as they keep paying outside developers to keep bringing hits to their console exclusively they've got the edge even though they dont have the overall hype. The Nintendo Wii didnt have the major hype for their year in 2010, but with all of their reveals it was pretty much unanimous that Nintendo had won. I hadn't played a Nintendo console since the N64 and I admit that I was blown away. When I get the Wii U I am playing everything I missed from the Wii. As for the Wii U's reveals? I don't really know right now.
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First of all in the future can you please not write replies in a wall of text? It's much nicer for the person replying to you.
As for your arguments for why Microsoft should have a more exciting conference, they're not really valid. I mean Sony has more proven internal studios than Microsoft and they also have more internal developers than Microsoft does actually working on PS4 exclusives.
Your idea that Microsoft has been using external teams, presumes that Sony hasn't been doing so, which isn't right at all. Looking at the amount of outright exclusives coming to PS4 this year Sony only has Tearaway Unfolded and Kill Strain (so 2) which are completely internally developed games, AAA that are coming to PS4 in 2015.
The rest of PS4's 2015 line-up 3)The Order (Ready at Dawn), 4)Bloodborne (From Software), 5)Until Dawn (Supermassive Games), 6)Ratchet & Clank (Insomniac), 7)Drawn To Death (Bartlett Jones Supernatural Detective Agency), 8)Fat Princess Adventures (Fun Bits Interactive), 9)Let it Die (Grasshopper Manufacture) 10) Deep Down (Capcom). There's also indies as well, so 20% of the AAA games coming this year are made by external developers, in some cases supported by an internal Sony studio like Santa Monica, Japan or San Diego.
The indies are also technically Sony funded and published, so you can add 11)WiLD, 12)Rime, 13)Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, 14)Alienation, 15)The Tomorrow Children and 16) Shadow of the Beast, all exclusive.
Sony are more killing it on the exclusives front, just based on the numbers of titles and variety coming, the quality of the developers behind them speaks for itself. It's largely fresh new games, with a few classic franchises mixed in. Playstation feels very much fresh.
Microsoft on the other hand only has Quantum Break for a 2nd party 2015 exclusive for Xbox One, Forza 6 and Halo 5 are the only other exclusives confirmed for release in 2015. Rise of the Tomb Raider is only a timed exclusive, will definitely come to PC and Playstation, but even if that was only XBox One only there's nothing exclusive besides those 4 games. Tomb Raider is also coming to 360 when it releases on XB1, so that leaves 3 exclusives in 2015, not really killing anything in my eyes.
The fact Sony has managed to bolster PS4's exclusives line-up, with 16 titles for 2015, next to Microsoft's 3 really says it all. Most of those games were kept a secret until they were officially unveiled, even if names leaked the actual details about newly revealed titles were kept quiet until the developers or Sony officially talked about them.
That brings me to your claim that Microsoft somehow keeps more secrets than Sony, the likes of the MCC, Forza Horizon 2, Crackdown, Phantom Dust and many others have been talked about before officially being announced, with details coming good insiders like Shinobi602, Microsoft actually has the worse track record, with Sony and Nintendo keep secrets far better.
Really in the Sony vs Microsoft argument as I said above Sony has more proven developers, yet they have revealed more externally developed games to be 2015 exclusives for PS4 this year, out of 16 exclusives for the year, only 2 are 1st party developed in their entirety and maybe a few more of the 2nd party games are given a helping hand by Sony Worldwide Studios, the rest all work externally on PS4 exclusives. That basically means that many more 1st party games are probably in the works and given Sony's developers track records it seems highly likely they have a pretty huge catalog of stuff to reveal this year.
Given the relationships that Sony has with external studios, their level of software sales in the industry that would have to bode well for any partnerships that Sony could have made with 2nd and 3rd party developers throughout 2014 and so far this year. The fruits of the 2014 deals will probably be the 1st to be revealed.
In a discussion about software support no one should ever forget which platform holder is selling the most software from 3rd party, it's just no logical to ignore that, it means that Sony are in the better position to gain those games, if that wasn't the case then something like Street Fighter 5 wouldn't have happened, despite Microsoft selling more XBox One's than 360 at aligned sales times. If sales data was pointing towards Xbox One selling close to PS4 then the deal wouldn't have happened.
The point here is that Sony doesn't even have to pay much for a measure of exclusivity or outright exclusivity, because the games are going to sell so much more on PS4 than Xbox One.
Sony isn't just winning the hardware race with PS4, they're winning the race of who sells the most games and that's what matters most to publishers.
Many of Sony's 1st party studios work on more than one project at once, what they're going to have at E3 or any of the game's conferences this year is largely a surpise, we only know that those 1st party studios have been busy for a long time on games and that Sony has been able to surprise with huge deals from external studios as well in the past.
Microsoft hasn't shown their focus on the exclusives front in the same way as Sony, the fact Sony has more announced for 2015 and that was the case before we even entered this year speaks for itself. MS hasn't shown that this is likely to change, maybe they will pull out more stops at E3 this year, but there's very little evidence of that happening from my point of view.
