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binary solo said:
dasnook said:
No way will X1 catch ps4 in the US...ps4 won't be 399 forever and x1 will be harder to drop in price over this gen due to esram and using older ddr43 ram which won;t drop in price anymore. Especially with ps4 outselling it while being more expensive.

But even high end gaming rigs still use DDR3 for main RAM. GDDR5 is only used for the graphcs card. It's only the crazy expensive uber spec'd gaming rigs that use DDR4 in the main RAM. So it's not like DDR3 is rapidly falling from use, and even if mid-high end gaming rigs move to DDR4 for main RAM in the next couple of years there's still going to be a lot of lower end computers sold with DDR3. 

Besides how much does the marginal moviements in price fort DDR3 or GDDR5 really affect the over all cost of these consoles. There are probably far more significant cost reductions for both sides that will allow for price cuts.

Yeah those can be bought for 300 bucks right?  GDDR5 will drop in price much faster it is hoe manufacturing works,  samsung already has made improvements in this area, DDr3 won't drop anymore. Being widely used is irrelevant, every PC has a graphics card anyway so it is also widely used. New manufacturing products drop faster in price new ones can even increase, do a quick search for dr 2 ram now... I suggest you look up manufacturing processes to see why GDDR5 will drop much faster then ddr3, in fact it already has.

http://www.gamepur.com/news/17660-ps4-slim-might-arrive-early-expected-samsung-starts-mass-production-1gb.html

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/samsung-begins-mass-production-of-8gb-gddr5-memory-chips/

 

Many other devices like mobile use GDDR5, it will be more widely used then ddr3, that's why ther was a big race from numerous manufacturers to win the war to GDDR5mass production.

Your last question I already answered, esram is an even bigger issue, I never said GDDR5 was the only aspect. Esram made MS use more die space and is expensive making price reductins , on top of ysing older DDR3 ram will make it harder long term to drop the price.