How Do You Define "Indie"?

[Cloudman]

Ka-pi96 said:

Cloudman said:
I`d say basically a team that isn`t funded by a publisher, and is funded by the team themselves. Kickstarter I think it also acceptable, but that`s when the term indie starts to go into the grey area.

But couldn't you say that too is a grey area? With self publishing and all now there are plenty of fairly big studios that fund games themselves, such as The Witcher.

Besides that, what of games made directly by a publisher, Assassin's Creed for example was published by Ubisoft, but it was also funded and developed by Ubisoft so could you not argue that is independent as well since they never had any outside help?

Isn`t that what the definition of a indie team is? They fund it themselves with no outside help, and they can make their game however they want without appeasing certain publishers. Also, don`t the Witcher games have publishers? The thing is that Ubisoft is a company that focuses on making games and have been for awhile now. They are an established company with assets. I wouldn`t say they are indie.