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Talal said:
Goatseye said:

Throw City and United in there. It's been ages since anyone was scared of them.

It's easy for English teams to get sponsorship due to them beeing highly marketable.


City haven't had much success in Europe yet, but they are still one of the biggest teams in Europe and their domestic success is enough to prove that. United are garbage now yes, but I'm not basing this solely on current form I'm basing it on the last few years or so.

Richest you might say. They never got into CL as the main contender or a serious threat.On paper they look threatnening but whenever they play... ehh.

United? Sir Alex Ferguson been f****** up since 08. They were never the same since Ronaldo left.