mai said:
Oh, I didn't want this discussion over here, so I ignored the part about Philippines, but if you're so eager: a) I didn't mention ASEAN in that post; b) proxy is rather neutral term, not sure why hard feelings; c) proxy in the given context was supposed to mean that one political subject acts in favour of another subject's interests (sometimes its own interests as well) in a given area, set of questions etc., therefore d) I stand by my definition, Phillipines is US proxy when it comes to relations with China, which is rather common place tbh. As far as I know US naval base in Subic Bay was supposed to resume its operation, seems like it didn't by now, not sure what is the current state of affairs on the matter. But as soon as it does Philippines will be considered a threat by PCR with everything that comes with it if situation in South-East China Sea deteriorates up to a military conflict, which I do expect to happen even though not too soon. Granted, I don't know much about Philippines outside this, but my opinion that I've shared in that post was... it's sometimes wise to consider long-term goals over short-term goals and whatever problems you have with China do not outweight a good relationships with your neighbour. |
Actually, i didn't get any hard feelings about it. I just find it really funny. "Oh you dont see the US as the biggest threat? You are a US proxy" lol. Like I said. Many from your post history are anti west and very dismissive if it isn't Pro Russian.
the US used to have base in Subic but the contract wasn't renewed so they were kcicked out in the '90's, so the US having bases here isn't new. And China already pushed that 9dash line(tongue like border) way before the renegotiation of the US base here. And Bases or no bases China already claimed an island that is in our Exclusive Economic Zone even before a renegotiation was considered. Even Vietnam is now seeking Closer ties to the US. There's a bright side though, Vietnam, Phil and Japans military ties are getting stronger.
You said that the US is forming a coalition here against China and most of the new anti Chinese expansion sentiment is developing in South East Asia thus I assume ASEAN.
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