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mjk45 said:

What people forget is it was a different world  when the constitution was framed and  you had people making laws based on the fact that they rebeled against the english  so arming the population had a different meaning then , and during the civil war you had many Militia companies raised and led by volunteers , today you have a democracy  and you hear it's virtues touted all over the world , but time and time again you also hear the the government can't be trusted we need to be able to protect ourselves from it from an outsiders perspective  so you really strange dichotomy of  love for the ballot box /love for the right to be armed against it.


"today you have a democracy"

 

true and there is a reason why america was not formed as a democracy but as a republic with constitutional rights granted to its citizens

it was to ensure that the masses would not be able to vote away their rights to the state in return for protection and security 

 

to guard against an era where citizens could be detained indefinitely without trial or due process so that the government can keep the people safe in its search for "terrorists"

 

the rights of the citizens were supposed to be immutable so that little by little they could not be voted away until eventually a tyranny was formed

 

"democracy" has always spiralled into tyranny because the masses always vote for more and more security granting the ruling class more and more power

 

the reason why the concept of democracy and socialism are being pushed so hard now is for that very purpose... it is not for the best interests of the masses but its to grant the ruling class more power with the consent of the masses

 

think about it yourself why would the one's in charge push a system where supposedly everyone is at an even level? would that not elimate their power? why would they do that? well they wouldn't... yes most people will be confined to one level but they will still be at the top controlling everything with even more power than they had initially