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Normchacho said:
o_O.Q said:


good we agree on that

and the same goes for the jews in nazi germany and any other oppressed group of people in similar situations

they were all powerless because they did not have the means to fight back 

and now people are being convinced that disarming themselves is the best thing to do

 

what amazes me is that we study these events of the past and it never occurs to some people that it could happen again

because i suppose we are suppose to be "modern" and "civilised" now and "that can't happen to me" or "that can't happen here"

Ahh, the tyranny argument...That would be a very good point, in 1912...

How much training does the average gun owner have? What is that gun owner going to do against an M1A2, or a predator drone...Military tech has moved so far beyond civilian armament that there is no way a civilian force could stand up to the military anymore.

Exactly: unless you belive that the US military, comprised of US citizens, would turn on the US citizenry, there is no reason to have the right to bear arms to defend yourself against a tyrannical state. On the other hand, if you believe that soldiers would willingly oblidge such orders, there is every reason to believe that the right to bear arms would afford you no chance of resistance against a tyrannical state.