Qwark said:
huiii said:
I say neither. Try to integrate it.
Imo Austria has started a good atempt at that. According to some new(ish) law they accept the islam as a national religion, but imams paid from outside of the country are probibited to try and minimize influence form arabic countries and imams sent from there. Also they demand a (non radical/non violent) official translation of the coran into german, and say that law is to stand above religion.
By doing this they try to limit the (culturally different) influence of the arabic regions and forster a home grown islam which incorporates more domestic values, which imo is the way to go. |
The problem is that when islam political parties are rising due to demographics, those laws could be annaulized easily if there are enough people to vote for them. Europes politics can change way faster than those in America the only party who can hold this back is the despicable EU. In Denmark the Quran is being readed on national televison to gather support and tolerance for these people. Even with a minimal influence already 650 germans traveled to Syria/Iraq to fight for IS, many muslims don't want to live in a free Western Europe but a new peacefull Middle East which was previously known as Europe.
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Yes but these people are already in europe and wheter we want to or not we have to live with them. Now we can either alianate and criminalize them, which imo plays into the hands of IS and such since oppressed people are more likely to act up and easier radicalized. Or we find a way to coexist, which is what austria is trying to do.
Those people are here, they belive in the islam and they are not goint to stop beliveing in it. So any debate wheter we want the islam or not is basicly uselsess since we already have it. The point where action need to be taken is in how it develops and grows in the western world and trying to integrate it. And by that i don't mean to accept sharia or bs like that but support moderate islamism and try to prevent radicalism but that can't be donne from the outside but needs to be donne together with the islamic comunity.
