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Nuvendil on 06 March 2015
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WorldBreakerHulk said:
Nuvendil said:


And I'm guessing you haven't played Xenoblade Chronicles nor are familiar with its setup, based on Gnosticism.  The character I mentioned is Xenoblade's version  of Gnosticism's Monad.  As in God.  With a capital G.  Omnipotent.  Unkillable.  He doesn't even have a body for you to attack.  I didn't say I was taking the easy way out for nothing :P .  His power levels are quite absurd if you take him within the context of the Xenoblade Universe, which you obviously must since you are taking these heroes in the context of their most powerful universes.  And when you do that, you can't defeat him.  You can't even *fight* him.  He is, to put it quite bluntly, beyond the capabilities of any being to fight or resist.  You can match up any being from those universes you want, but knowing comics, they all have limitations.  As such, they can't win, cause infinity minus any number you care to name, is still infinity. 


Unfortunately, no I haven't. Due to its rarity and Philippines being a small market to even notice. The only way I can buy it is through oL shopping and hope  that our *cough* wonderful customs guy doesn't hold it.

Problem with DC/Marvel is there are characters that will fall other the omnipotent category who are all knowing, immortal/unkillable, etc but there is one who is stronger than them. example Shuma Gorath in Chaos Dimension is considered omnipotent but TOAA is still the the big dog of Marvel. In DC, its still not clear if the presence is the supreme being or the primal monitor.You could probably say that they are nigh omnipotent since theere is someone greater than them.

If you can provide feats, 'd really appreciate it. and if what you say is true then TOAA or The Presence can stalemate the gods.

Well this is all absurd spoilers so if you want to play the game, we should end this now.  Be warned :P .

Alvis was, originally, the control computer of an experiment facility.  This facility was runby two scientists.  The experiment resulted in the destruction of the entire universe and its recreation.  In the process, the computer, ALVIS, was the guiding principle, providence, becoming the Monad, essentially God.  This is where his omnipotence comes from.  Within the universe of Xenoblade, everything - all order, all power - flows from him.  To quote him, "I am Monado.  I was here at the beginning, and I shall declare the end."  It is a type of Monism.  That's why I say, in the *context of his universe*, he is undefeatable because there, as he himself puts it, "even gods are merely beings restricted to the limited power determined by providence."  And he is providence.  He makes the rules, and he alone makes the rules by virtue of how the universe of Xenoblade operates.  If you want a specific thing he does, well there are two.  First, he demonstrates his absolute authority in that he grants the Shulk the power to fell a god, basically "administrative rights" in computer terms :P .  But more impressively, at the end of the game he recreates the universe in its original, ridiculously vast form with no effort.  Hope that explains what I meant.