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ohmylanta1003 said:
Wonktonodi said:


Why confused? Most the point I was addressing from average console gamer vs an average gamer. I still don't think there was a point bringing them up though. The average console gamer doesn't play online at all so why would it matter if it's free or not? 


I would say the average console does play online though. Halo, COD, GTA, Destiny, and others are all games that the average console gamer often plays online. And I don't know if it's just bad typing or bad English, but you're becoming very difficult to understand.

Sorry for the typos. I was posting from my phone.

You could say the average console owner does play online but you would be wrong. Most xbox 360 users didn't pay to play online. Most ps3 owners didn't play. Most ps4 users don't. Not sure with xboxone due to subscription numbers vs userbase though it it's like the 360 than they don't.  Most wii games didn't even have online and were more about the local co-op.

We've gotten a bit away from the points we were making though. You said, "And for the average gamer (people not on this site), these free games are basically worthless. The average gamer would certainly prefer a free service."

I don't think they would necessarily find them worthless, I think they didn't buy them more out of ignorance than thinking there was a lack of quality in the games. Now that there are many more people getting plus after the online was put behind the paywall for the ps4, it is clear that to some online was a more important feature to some than the games were.

 Hopefully some of them will find value in the games since they now are paying for them like it or not. Will the average new plus subscriber find them worthless? I would think not with the diversity in there. Will there be some that won’t like any? Sure, it’s easy for people to find ways to dislike things. Will some find out that they can get more in value out of there service than what they pay for it. I’m sure there will be many.

Back onto the topic as a whole do I think people prefer free to get something free vs paying for it? Of course people prefer free. Do I now know what xbox 360 fans felt when they were saying they didn’t mind netflix behind the paywall? Sure though I do still think that multiplayer shouldn’t have been behind the paywall on the ps4, but I’m not going to suddenly stop paying for plus out of protest when I am so happy with what the service gives me otherwise.