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SubiyaCryolite said:
Materia-Blade said:

Xenoblade has a bigger area rendered at a given time than skyrim while having much better graphics (polygons, textures,everything else). I don't know what you're trying to say with that "population" comparison, since XCX is full of things on every area. Smash is certainly more demanding than skyrim, with its 1080p 60fps and non blurry/low polygon characters.

Bayonetta 2 IS 60fps, xenoblade is clearly focusing on graphics and draw distance instead of 60fps and Wind Waker HD is 30 fps on wii u because the original game was designed that way. An increase to 60 would probably change the physics. For example, the original kingdom hearts when run on an emulator at 60fps makes objects fall twice as fast, as if doubling the fps increased the gravity.

The fact you aren't accepting is that Wii U games that aren't lazy ports/ports from lower platfroms consistently run at 720p 60fps with much better graphics than ps360 or 1080p 60fps with slightly better graphics than ps360. That's twice the average framerate and three times the average resolution (640p) for those two last gen consoles. Since ps360 had 200 gflops gpus, that easily puts wii u in the range of 600 gflops.

The 5670 is a 620 GFlop card and I remember it performing much better than my Wii U in a lot of titles. Case in point ME2 and ME3 ran at 60fps (720p, could hit 900p30) while the Wii U port is capped to 30. Looking at youtube that card runs titles like Crysis 2 and Dirt 3 at High up to 1366 x 768 (> 720p) over 30fps. It also runs newer games like Far Cry 4 and Watch Dogs, admittedly at low but 8th gen PC "low" presets look pretty good. The Wii U rarely does that. Claiming that the Wii U has 3x the graphical throughghput of the PS3/360 and nearly half of the X1s is  very generous of you.

An unoptimized port? really? Wii U has many games that run better than ME3 while being much more graphically intensive. Not that you can compare gpus like that but are you sactisfied? it's your own logic.