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zero129 said:
Kerotan said:


So why are you supporting Rockstar when they've given the pc version the cold shoulder so many times its not even funny.  The reality is games like battlefield and far cry that started out on pc are now dominated by console sales.  Pc is very relevant for f2p and mmo's but when it comes to the AAA cross gen titles it's a very small player.  Your the one who brought up console players and pc on this. So my advice is don't do that if you don't want me coming in with hard facts and setting things straight. 

Out of all the Rockstar games i played on my PC only 1 was broken on release and that was GTA4 but then they redeemed themselfs in my eyes with a great port of max payne 3, But thats just me. if R* release a badly optimised GTA5 that doesnt look much better then the X1/PS4 versions after such a long delay i wont support them same as many other PC users wont, But then i guess console fans will say "AAA Games dont sell on PC" cos of this -_-, But if R* had to released the game at the same time on PC/X1/PS4 i can bet you the PC sales of GTA5 would of dwafed the Nextgen console versions.

Battlefield 3 sold great on PC BF4 was another badly broken game that still sold great on PC, have you compared sales of the PS4 version of BF4 to the PC version?? or FC4 PS4 vs PC version sales??, Anyway FarCry 2 left a very bad taste in PC gamers mouths, But FarCry 3 went on to sell very well on PC and still has pretty good legs since its still selling, and FC4 is doing even better then the last one it seems and will most likely have great legs on PC too.

Anyway like i said also in my last post to you PC games also are not very front loaded, But they have great legs and sell for years and years but anyway you fail to see all this, Lucky the rest of the one time Console devs dont think like you and are now seeing value in the PC Market, But you will also downplay this.

Ok ill keep in mind then to remember that you will be coming into every PC thread to downplay PC Gaming But not with hard facts as you like to say cos im still waiting for you to show me Digital Game sales on PC to show how them so called "AAA" games dont sell, and not with using sales data from companys that has a very bad rep on PC (UBISoft).

But then you wont do this cos you cant, the same way you didnt bother to reply back to what i wrote to you in that other thread cos you got stuck for words. i I can once again post a number of reasons to you how and why the PC gaming community has been changing and evolving so much over the last few years and more so within the last two years to start bringing in more console gamers and how its been working out well with the massive growth steam has been seeing going from 80 million to over a 120 million active users in the space of 3 months is huge no matter how much you try to downplay it and say it doesnt matter, but instead of looking at "Real" facts such as how Valve is making the PC gaming experence very console like and easy to use for the casual console player with Big Picture mode Central Friends and achivement lists auto update and patching of your games etc etc, and how its become cheaper and easier then ever for console only gamers to get into PC gaming you can keep saying them facts you like to speak of and turning a blind eye to everything else but your starting to sound like some who is looking at PC gaming from 2004 and stuck in denial instead of looking at how much PC gaming has changed and evolved within them years .


Wow you actually used ubi as an example after I linked you their financial reports.  Far cry used to be a pc only series.  Now the bulk of its revenue comes from consoles.  Ps4 for Ubisoft brings in more revenue than pc. And that was only 18 million consoles versus 125 million active steam accounts plus non steam pc users.  Same with battlefield.  That started pc only and it's now dominated by console revenue.