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vkaraujo said:
morenoingrato said:

I am not going to deny the U.S. fucked up here early on. The result of that is the extreme left that has been going on here for years. It already imploded in Venezuela and is slowly developing very negatively in the rest of the region. The region needs to stop that.

What are the results? Venezuela (The most redical left country)? Massive recession. Argentina? Recession. Brazil? Stagnant. With low oil Ecuador might just be heading towards a recession and it is showing no signs of liberating its policies. It is no surprise the only country that has not gone full left is doing well (Chile) and Colombia is doing relatively decently.

Just watch, South America is heading towards a rude awakening. I am no advocate of far right, but this extreme left in South America is a tickling bomb that has already detonated in Venezuela.

As a Brazilian, i can testify for this. Despite the fact that the president just won the elections in october (barely), the latest pool showed 44% think the government is bad and 46% that she lied during the campaign. We are surely going to see a comeback from the right in the next years. Actually we already did, in our congress, which became the most conservative of the last decade.

Venezuela and Argentina are just sad to watch. The government in Argentina had to forbid the population from buying dollars and it seems to have no credibility at all.

My main worry though is greece. Either Troika "forgives" their debt, and therefore Spain will elect Podemos and refuse to pay too, or the country could be expelled from EU. 

they dont need so much debt "forgiven". they just need to stop some stupid reforms and the EU should stop the troika by kicking out the imf, those guys are just insane, they try the same shit over and over and it never worked and will never work.  sure they need 200 years or so till they have a normal debt level, but thats totaly fine i guess, it doesnt cost the EU much(well it brings germany money because of the low/negative bund rate for germany).