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Skullwaker said:

Here's what I think: people that are not, and never will be, interested in Nintendo products are way too passionate about their financial state and the Wii U's woes.

The Wii U was probably the worst thing Nintendo could've done to follow up the Wii with. We get it. It had a shitty name, shitty marketing, mediocre launch lineup, the list goes on. But does this really need to be discussed at all times?

I'm just saying. If I wasn't a fan of Nintendo, you surely wouldn't see me talking about them so often.

(just a general response to people who are hellbent on wanting Nintendo to perish)

So basically you are saying that no one should talk about the state Nintendo is in? Well the same way you think only people that want Nintendo to perish are the ones talking about Nintendo is the same way that I can say only die hard fanatical fans of Nintendo that seem content to buying their heads in the sand have a problem with people talking about Nintendo now.

it's open season, when the PS3 blundered it's way into the last gen have you forgotten how people talked about it? 

Besides, I doubt there is one person in this thread that has said they want Nintendo to fail, everything so far seems like objective criticism. And as long as Nintendo makes no effort to right their ship then expect people to keep talking about them. Unfortunately, said ship can't be out right this generation and if Nintendo keeps being stubborn I fear things will only get much worse for them.

What I actually find most interesting in this thread is the amount of people that really believe that better marketing and a better name are the biggest problems with the WiiU. I don't know who is more out of touch, Nintendo management or Nintendo fans.