1886 In depth technical analysis, DF can learn something from this guy

[Chazore]

Intrinsic said:

 

1. you're picking a fight and no ones fighting. who said anything is only acceptable when the PS4 tries to do something and PCs shouldn't be praised for the same? All I am saying is that there are tangible things when it comes to a games performance that don't require a microscope to see. You show a PC gamer the order/drive club..etc and the first thing they would say is, not 4k or not 60fps as if every single PC gamer out there can even match those specs. What I'm saying is that whenever a conversation is being and about how well the PS4/XB1 is running a game or how good it looks, it shouldn't always devolve into a spec war against an opponent that's simply impossible to beat. I'm saying that the PC enthusiasts set the bar impossibly high based in what the most powerful setups out there can achieve when in truth a majority of PC gamers don't have or can't even afford rigs capable of running games at those settings. 
2. sheesh... don't even know where you are getting this... but it's good you mention star citizen. Power and performance does not equal the best looking game out there. If you are being honest with yourself you would understand exactly what I mean. if a dev makes a game that's pushing the most pologons possible while running at 8k and 120fps, that doesn't automatically make it the best looking game. Yes, it may be the most technically demanding game but power and how its used are two completely different things. As I said, "some" PC gamers tend to mix the two up.
3. I decided to "cite" out PC gamers in relation to this topic not in general as an attack. Cause just like every single time a topic is made talking about how good any game looks on a console, the PC peeps will jump in talking about rez and frame rate as if those were the only things that make a game look good. 

Tell you what, when star citezen comes out, or the next bastion for PC gaming eye candy, let me know, but till that happens, TO and whatever game comes out and betters it is currently the best looking game on any platform. Not most technically demanding or power hungry... just the best looking period. So is it wrong to say that simply cause in a year or two another game will come and take that crown??

 

1. No you're still the one who's deciced to start the fight, you're going with the generalisation that every PC gamer somehow ultimately wants 4k/60fps, I know I'd at least want 60fps because I've experienced it for years on both consoles and PC's but now we're seeing it not being 60fps acorss the board and how devs try to claim 30fps is better for cinematic experience even though hardware is setting them back and we're seeing sacrifices on both consoles being made, you said yourself that all PC gamers cite it as some form of spec war yet every time I see a thread about PS4 is 1080p 60fps while XB1 is 900p maybe 60fps- 30fps and suddenly it matters, I'm seeing this a lot this gen and whenver PC is entered (you know since they create video games they should not be facing the same hinderences that closed hardware suffers which is down to the user upgrading which isn't as impossible as it is to upgrade a console) it suddenly doesn't matter and it;s all big massive fluff.

I'm going to expect you also went to Steam to look at the hardware list and assume the majority if not all PC gamers 100% have underpwoered rigs, because I've already seen a non PC person use Steam data against PC's in general, I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen again.

 

2.Get off that train if you can't face the flak, you cannot praise TO then for it;s pixel pushing and graphics if you're just going to plainly put down SC, that's a game that's already doing more and will certainly last more than TO and you're already putting it down and competing the damn circle, congrats on feeding the cycle, you seem to act as if you know everything about PC gamers like you're some sort of psychiatrist who's well and truly been around on the planet long enough to know a diverse group of gamers without actually seeing the entire number of them...

So you think SC will be utter tripe, a flop and crap then?, all while the roder is a darling spectaciluar even though it's trying to clearly push power and graphics.

 

3. Not from what I'm seeing, those that do are right to because 1080p 60fps has been a standard on PC for years, when a console this new is having to make sacrifices to one or even both you cannot deny there is a problem right there, this gen is being marketed heavily as 1080p 60fps, hell the new Devil May Cry reboot edition on XB1/PS4 is touting 1080p 60fps, you can bet that people will take that in and judge it to see if it does such, for every dev out there that gets asked "will it be 1080p 60fps?" that's not PC only people asking that question and even if devs give out the answer before the question is even asked it will again lead to judgement to see if the game holds to that claim.

Every thread I've seen on here that's about what a PS4/XB1 game can do it;s always either side fedning off the other or making one side winning like it;s some absolute enjoyable slaughtering bloodbath, I've seen that term used a lot around here that it's not even funny because it;s obvious people take enjoyment in their side winning and the other losing, it;s how the console wars are still strong, you think there's a thing called PC wars?, of course not because PC's aren't owned by a single company trying to sell their closed hardware and PC's in general are all different and unique which is why it's pointless fighting against one another.

You do realise that as time goes on the more pixels, the better the sound, the scope, the fps, the better games progress right?, otherwise if you think absolutely none of those matter then go back to playing 80's nes games, I love both cartoonish graphics and realistic, sometimes even artistic and retro even but I know that technology improves the realistic graphics with time and that's something to always look forward to rather than simply ingore because it "doesn't matter" or it's "not important".

 

"Tell you what, when star citezen comes out, or the next bastion for PC gaming eye candy, let me know, but till that happens, TO and whatever game comes out and betters it is currently the best looking game on any platform. Not most technically demanding or power hungry... just the best looking period. So is it wrong to say that simply cause in a year or two another game will come and take that crown??"

Why should I let you know?, it;s not like you'd care for it anyway, not enough if you're having to cite PC gamers with a sweeping generalisation, you've already crowned one of your favourite games on the pedestal on your console of choice, it's not like you came from this with an unbiased viewpoint anyway, you even said "next bastion", what's that even supposed to mean?, because afaik that's sarcasm from a mile away.

best looking is subjective and you know that, unless you want to bring games from the past and do more pixels to "look good".