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Intrinsic said:

However, my biggest problem with PCs and some PC enthusiasts is that (for lack of a better description) they tend to be more in love with the idea of things than what is actually in front of them and real. So what if Nvidia techs can put the full weight of their GPU to show off a technical demo of some sort that would make everyone's jaw drop, or that you can use unreal engine 4 and make a walk through of an apartment that is leaps and bounds beyond anything in games to day and maybe even in the next 5 years. Or you can dial a games specs up to ultra and 4k then take screenshots of the game to show how good it could run for the 1% of gamers out there than can build or afford a rig to support it @30fps if they are lucky. 

At the end of the day, what is most important is what we are playing and what we can see. Here and now. lets give credit where credit is due, the order is one of the flat out best looking games on the planet across any platform. I hold my reservations of its worth as a good game though I'll say there is a reason why I'm not buying it till it drops to around $30/$40, but let's not downplay what has been accomplished here.


That's not really objectively true though, there's plenty of indie games and regular ones that don't always focus on trying to be like Crysis and aren't always about pushing the pixels, when there are games that try to be crysis why can't we marvel at the power they can churn out with PC's and the games they make using newer hardware?, why is it only acceptable when PS4 tries to do it with one game but we can't marvel and praise a PC one?.

Nvidia deserves praise when they push power just like AMD apparently is getting for their hand with the PS4/Xbox 1/Wii U, in fact what I'm seeing now is TO blows Ryse according to the "in depth analysis" reviewer linked in this thread which means Ryse is shit and TO above everything else, so really everything was for nothing when we place one game like that on a pedestal.

"At the end of the day, what is most important is what we are playing and what we can see. Here and now. lets give credit where credit is due, the order is one of the flat out best looking games on the planet across any platform."

So what happens when Star Citizen comes out?, what's going to happen when a PC game that's exclusive pushes the pixels and does 60fps and more?, will that be flat out one of the ebst looking games on the planet on any platform?, or are we just playing favourites?, because objectively and subjectively I believe SC should get just as much praise as TO when that comes out, the funding from gamers alone has put in at 70 million dollars, that's not compnay funded money like Sony or MS, that's actual users showing they want the game to be what it should be with their own money and that's a hell of a lot of money just for one game, so in that respect I expect that game to be "setting trends" as the guy describes TO apparently doing for this generation even though this gen hasn't even come close to beginning.

I want to ask you though, what are your views on PS/XB/N gamers in your eyes, what's wrong with them in general since you decided to cite out PC gamers for what their hardware can do.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.