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LudicrousSpeed said:

GribbleGrunger said:
So we've established that any game:

Under 6 hours
Can be finished in 5 hours if you skip stuff
Has lots of QTEs
Has Borders
Is Story driven
Has lots of cut scenes totaling almost half of the length of the game
Is linear in design
Somehow still costs $60 at launch

Must be constantly critiqued on everything until launch.

Noted.

I fixed some of that for you, and added another. You really hit the nail on the head in terms of the problems with The Order. You might be able to try really hard and find 2-3 games that fit this entire list, maybe. But you won't find many at all. Hell, I cannot think of a single one. And that's why The Order gets so much hate. It's not just "omg its so short!" it's that it's so short, it's extremely linear, its loaded with so many cut scenes that almost half the time you're "playing" you're actually just watching, an enormous part of the game is tied to QTE's, there's little to no replay value, AND it's going to launch at $60.

Another reason the flames are burning so strong is because it's a PS exclusive, and a highly hyped/anticipated one, so you have a slew of people arguing and defending the game. Which just means more replies and more discussion.

There's nothing uncanny about it. Other games like Titanfall, Evolve, hell even Ryse were subjected to the same hate. And it's not because of the Sony brand, either. Uncharted and LoU might have had a small amount of hate prior to launch but it's overwhelmingly positive. And Bloodborne can do no wrong right now. Maybe this game is just getting hate because it deserves it? A lot of people don't like the idea of a 5-6 hour game where 35-40% of it are cut scenes, and the only real replay value is replaying the game to hunt trinkets. And it's $60.

Most popular walkthrough on YT for Wolfenstein The New Order is 7 hours and 15 minutes long. Howlongtobeat has that game with a 13 hour average play time. Oh, and that game has 2 hours and 47 minutes of cutscenes. Oh the horror! 38% of Wolfenstein is cutscenes! Kill it with fire!



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