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deskpro2k3 on 15 February 2015
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sundin13 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Regardless, with what you see on youtube about The Order, MGS4 is shorter, gameplay wise. You cannot deny the fact you can finish the game in around 4.5 hours because the game has incentives for you to speedrun it. Still it is a fun game and it received 94 on meta even for having a short gameplay.

So, what is the problem with The Order? I see no issues here.


Okay, I understand your point. I think it is a rather disingenuous way to talk about this, because even without the seven hours of cutscenes, an average play of MGS4 took around 10 hours, but I see your point. As I have not played MGS4, I cannot discuss The Order in the context of MGS4. However, in the context of The Order, The Order is too short and fluffy to validate its price tag. In addition to all of its other flaws (frequent cinematic cuts, shooting gallery style shooting segments, lack of gameplay choice, lack of any narrative choice, general structure of the game being built around movie style writing instead of utilizing the strengths of the medium etc), which I have discussed at length at other times, my conclusion that The Order is not worth the money stands.

PS: To those dragging in other games when speaking of game length, bear in mind that this discussion isn't taking place in a vacuum. When looking at game length, we are often looking at what you do in game, the quality of the systems, the amount of actual gameplay and more to decide whether the game's length justifies its cost. I cannot speak for everyone else or all of the other games that are being dragged into this discussion, but throwing them up as a shield in no way strengthens your argument. If The Order doesn't stand on its own two feet, it deserves to be criticized. Feel free to debate that ad nauseam, but please stop trying to throw up shields to validate anything. Tell us what you think The Order does that validates its price, because I have really yet to see much of anything but some pretty cutscenes....


Sounds a lot like MGS4 to me, and it is a good game, now all of a sudden it is a bad thing in The Order 1886, and its focus is storytelling. Mind blown.

It seems to me people stop concidering games for their fun factor, and storytelling.