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sc94597 on 09 February 2015
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Captain_Tom said:
sc94597 said:


The HD 7870, like its successor the r9 270x is and has been a mid-ranged GPU for years now. The HD 7950/7970 were the high end AMD cards when the HD 7870 released, and now the r9 280/ 285/280x/290/290x surpass the HD 7870 and the first few are generally considered mid-end cards designed for $500-800 PC's. And remember, the pitcairn in the PS4 is a gimped version of the standard 7870, while a 270x is an overclocked version. PC gaming is moving into 1440p at the minimum and 4k at the maximum now. And 60 fps has become somewhat of a standard for high-end cards. The HD 7870 can not succed in these areas, therefore it is a mid-end GPU. The PS4's GPU is so gimped that some games need to run at 1600 * 900 and 30 fps. 

1) High-end starts at AMD's R9 and Nvidia's GTX x60.  7950/70 was Enthusiaste-grade.  High end cards can max out everything when they come out, and only run games at mid-high a few years after.  Enthusiaste cards can more than max out games at release, and continue to do so years after release.  My 7970 can still max out EVERY game that comes out.  That makes it more than just High End. Plus look at the pricing.  $600 is more than most people spend on an entire PC, if you are spending that much you are looking for more than just "High."

 

2) If you want to talk about every game individually we can, but the fact is that A LOT of games still coming out are crazy unoptimized on the consoles for some reason (Battlefield comes to mind).  You did mention MGS:GZ though, and the PS4 runs it maxed out in 1080p at 60 FPS.  

1. What do you mean by max-out? Most PC gamers qualify that as running a game at max settings 60fps. I agree with that sentiment. High-end is a relative statement, but most reviews label the 270x as a midrange card, and it's an overclocked HD7870. 

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430258,00.asp

The AMD Radeon R9 270X ($199 list) is AMD's new midrange graphics card aimed at gamers who want strong 1080p performance, but can't afford luxury models. Like most members of the Radeon R7/R9 family, it's a refreshed version of a previous architecture—in this case, the AMD Radeon HD 7870. Specifically, it's a drop-in replacement for that chip, but at slightly higher clock speeds.

2. They're unoptimized on PC also. When did I mention MGS:GZ?