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jetforcejiminy said:

that's wonderful that you know those people. there are very few of them because the franchise has never, ever, ever had a single million seller. extraordinary (and pathetic) for a sports franchise when baseball is as popular as it is in the us and worldwide... madden and nba titles suggest sports games can sell... mlb the show just doesn't. hmm. compared to madden, nba and other key sports franchises, mlb the show is absolutely irrelevant.

and about the order, i didn't say it was going to bomb commercially. i said critically. and mark my words, it will. metascore will be low seventies, possibly high sixties. it's going to be an absolute disaster. we'll see in a few weeks, right?

but thank you for calling my post foolish, that was a nice gesture on your part.

You're being too narrow minded. It was possible that MLB 14: The Show exceeded 1 million sales. Nothing is confirmed for or against that and VGC's software tracking is very questionable. What can be confirmed is that first week sales were ~40% higher than that of MLB 13: The Show (http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/15/ps4-mlb-14-the-show-fastest-selling-in-franchise-history ). MLB 14 also had a staggered release; the PS4 version came out 1 month after the PS3 and Vita versions. Also, the PS4 was only out in the market for ~5 months. With a significantly higher userbase and a simultaneous release, MLB 15 should do better than its predecessor. Your claim that The Show is irrelevant just because it doesn't sell as much as Madden of NBA 2K is baseless. What makes you think that the franchise won't continue to grow larger? After all, MLB 2K is no longer around.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make when you say The Order is going to "bomb" critically. Also, low 70s isn't an absolute disaster. That is actually average. So, I guess the correct statement is "The Order is going to do average critically". Your hyperbole, however, is not the only issue. You are basing your conclusion on previews on a demo that was 1. running on an incredibly old build and 2. used over and over again. Ready At Dawn likely kept the vast majority of the game under wraps and I appreciate that. Too often, developers spoil too much which significantly diminishes my anticipation. The Order has gone gold, but we have seen very little footage of the game to this point. Who knows? It might be a pleasant surprise to many critics.