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Hiku said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Hiku said:

As several people pointed out, sales did not just come in. VGC numbers did. And their numbers this time last year had XO overtracked by as much as 100k in the US. Which begs the question, are you aware of the difference between VGC numbers, and NPD numbers? VGC numbers are guesstimates. NPD are official sales numbers in the US. VGC adjust their numbers according to the NPD each month.

I'm perfectly fine with waiting for NPD numbers. Until then though, we have ZERO, factual numbers to go by. So why is everyone just saying "last year bla bla bla" like that somehow means this year is going to be the exact same situation? Am I the only one who thinks ioi isn't dumb enough to make the same mistake twice? 

The only facts we have right now is that he haven't seen the PS4 win the US for months. That's a fact. Until I see otherwise, I am not going to just assume the PS4 is all of a sudden winning again. 

Because you're making a point based off of the VGC estimates that XBO won. If you're perfectly fine waiting for NPD, then why did you proclaim "Xbone won the US... AGAIN."? As for ioi not making the same mistake twice.... we're way past twice by now. And not just for XBO either.

And you leave out a very important fact. That Xbox One was sold at a much lower value during those two months where it won. As low as $150 in some cases. (Console + 5 free games + $50 gift card for $450 is what my friend got it for.)
And you claim that a PS4 win would be "sudden" in the week where Xbox One went up in price again to $400.
How would that be a "sudden" win, seeing as it outsold Xbox One every single week in 2014 when they were the same price?

Yes, nothing is set in stone yet. I'm not claiming that. But you were by claiming that it already won. And that's what I found silly.
And the way you're presenting your argument seems rather insincere.

- You cite VGC numbers as if they're fact, when you know that most people here are aware that they're not.
- You say a PS4 win with equal price points would be "sudden", when most people know that's what it's been doing all along.
- You don't specify that it was only two months and just say "for months", when most people know it was just two specific months.
- You don't mention that the price/deals of the XBO were the main factor in why it sold so well, when you know that most people already knows this.


It's almost as if you're content with just making your post look a certain way, rather than trying to actually convince anyone, or make a sincere argument.



Nice post. He's clearly ignoring data and trends and making up stuff to fit his argument. All the the while forgetting one more important fact.......Sony still has yet to touch the PS4's price.

Formerly ilovegirls69  :(