What's a hardcore gamer, what's a mature game?

[gergroy]

RolStoppable said:

gergroy said:

I don't really get how pikmin has a mature plot.  Pikmin definitely didn't have much of a plot, seemed pretty bare bones.  To me (and I assume most people) mature can mean two things.  1, that it is fully developed, and 2, meant for older audiences/ not suitable for children.  I don't think you could apply either of those to pikmin plot...  I can definitely see the hardcore gameplay argument though...

He said "more mature", not "mature". With Dead Rising 3 setting the bar, his claim isn't that farfetched.

well, it is a bad comparison to begin with if he is trying to remove the ESRB mature label as that is what most people are probably saying when calling Dead Rising 3 mature.  It is mature because of the insane amount of violence and vulgarity, not suitable for children.  I haven't actually played dead rising 3 so I can't really comment on that plot...