AlexJones said:
IFireflyl said:
AlexJones said:
The 360 never had insane firesales during its first year, nor did 360's sales drop-off at the end of its first holidays like the Xbone did.
There's enough reason to believe Xbone's sales are increadibly frontloaded. The only way Microsoft can maintain sales pace withthe 360 is if they continue taking a loss of $200+ per console, and I don't think Microsoft wants to do this for the rest of this generation. Eventually, Microsoft will not be able to use the "HIgher sales than 360 measured by release time", since the 360's sales skyrocketed once stock issues were cleared up while the Xbone has no stock issues. The 360 also got a good boost from kinect.
Either the Xbone will be discontinued shortly or Microsoft continues to lose billions per year on this console. It just insn't wise to invest in the Xbone.
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Go re-read my other posts. You're touting incorrect information and calling it fact. I did the research. They aren't losing $200+ per console. They're losing roughly $46 per console (and losing less for the console with the Kinect built in), and this is after they cut the price to $350. The Xbox $360 was losing rougly $75 per console without it going on sale.
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The Xbone costs around $420 to built according to rough breakdowns. DDR3 RAM prices probably increased BOM even more.
Microsoft sold the console at $320 during the holidays. $100 loss.
AC:U and AC:BF is $60 + $40. That's another $100 loss.
Include the reward/gift cards at many participating retailers and you're looking at a loss easily over $200.
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No offense, but this no longer became relevant when you said "probably". We're not including bundles because the 360, PS4, etc all have bundles, and we're not counting that for anyone. I'm talking pure console numbers versus pure console numbers. You don't have the facts for the other stuff you're arguing, so don't try to bring that into the mix unless you can (like I did) compare it to the Xbox 360. If you're going to play that game why not include the contests where Microsoft was giving away 360s before their launch.
P.S. I did some research, and all 10,000 Xbox 360's with Blue Dragon bundled with it were sold by October 19th, 2006 in Japan. And that's just one example of the Xbox 360 having bundles in the same timeframe I was including. And they were sold for around $250 each. That's a pretty substantial loss, much worse than anything the Xbox One has done.