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Netyaroze said:



Ofcourse low powered Chips for Phones in 20nm is no problem. But the APU in Xbox/PS4 is not low powered it needs like 20 times more Power then a Phone. Nvidia is precisely not satsified with 20nm because it does not offer a cost advantage. Why would Sony do it if they dont see a cost advantage or MS for that matter. They are accesible theoretically but I doubt its a very efficent and cost effective solution atm.  And I dont see a Slim coming before the 20nm node produced some high end gpus atleast.

i don't think you know how chip manufacturing works. And that would mean that it will take too much work to explain all this to you. 

And Nvidia is dissatisfied for a lot of different reasons. Again its best to read up on that, they had a whole presentation calling out their chip manufacturer.