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Legendary_W said:

Grammatical errors? Besides "get on with the times" which I hadn't realized how wrong it was until I read it a second time, my post seems grammatically correct (I had someone else check it since I got really paranoid lol).

Anyways I didn't mean it like that. I did hate Win8 at first and I did dislike MS for a long time (even though I preferred X360 to PS3 but still). I even made fun of them every chance I had. However, during the last year I realized MS isn't as bad as many people claims they are. Sure, they DID mess up with Windows 8, but they can't just radically change everything from it. Keep in mind Win10 is meant to unify all their devices, so some stuff from Win8 that works for mobile devices or Xbox UI or even the HoloLens will probably be kept (as to make Win10 "recognizable" among all platforms), but that doesn't mean it will look exactly like a Mobile OS. I see Win10 as a midpoint in-between Win7 and Win8, and for now most people seems to like it (which is actually a quite remarkable achievement for MS since every time they announce something they are automatically bashed unfairly by everyone (except for XO reveal, that WAS justified lol but hey, at least they fixed it). I sometimes think Win 8 was just a step forwards in this [Windows 10] direction, so that must be why "they grabbed the OS from their worst-selling division and put it on their best-selling one. They are trying to create an fully functional ecosystem, you know. Apple does it. Macbook, iMac, Mac Pro, iPhone, iPod, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch... All of these devices are tied together and share many characteristics, so people that buy Apple products for one thing is more likely to buy another product for something else. It creates an ecosystem that people becomes accustomed to and won't get away from so easily. That is the ultimate objective of Windows 10.

I'd like you to give me some examples of functionality that Win7 did better than 8. I never really liked Metro and how it opened things like music or pictures on a Music or Images App, but those are things anyone with some knowledge can find his way around easily, it's not that hard to fix most of the stuff people hates Windows 8/.1 for. For everything else, basically any program that works in Windows 7 works in Windows 8 (Though I'm speaking for myself since I haven't had any trouble so far), so in the long run you basically have a bit uglier but faster version of Windows 7. You may be right, maybe I don't use it the same way that people that complains does, so that's why I'm asking you for examples. I just want to know - honest, I'm not really arguing but rather sharing my opinion. 


This was a well written post, and I'm going to debate a couple of points with you.

1) Apple has a fully functioning eco-system. Fine. I'll give you that. Apple OS X and Apple iOS are not the same thing. They're two different frameworks, and they don't even look the same. Apple didn't design Apple OS X from their iOS. They were two separate entities, and they still are. Here is what you maybe were referring to though: Apple kept parts of the two OSs that worked together, and they replaced what didn't work together. Even though these are two different looks/styles of OS, they feel like the same thing. Microsoft didn't do that. They replaced Windows 7 with a mobile OS, in it's entirety. There was no Start Menu. They replaced it with "Live Tiles" crap. I don't like looking through all of those tiles, and I don't like the sort that they did of the applications from there.

2) They didn't do just one thing. They did a lot of things that maybe you didn't notice because quite a few things changed (though not all) in Windows 8.1. Allowing you to boot to desktop, easy to find Power button in the start menu, and smaller storage use to name a few things. There are other things that are still there, like the charm bar that was a nuisance if you go to the side of the screen, downloaded applications that run in full screen (e.g. can't be windowed), etc. There are a ton of things that Microsoft did with the look and feel that just shouldn't have been messed with. Windows 10 looks to be what Windows 8 should have been, but I won't know until I try it.