Protendo said:
IFireflyl said:
Juma009 said:
The only thing that defines if it's a success or failure is the existence of profit for MS, too bad such information is not out. |
You have the math I did in my previous post. The Xbox One through December 2014 cost Microsoft approximately $55 million. Microsoft has over 46 million Xbox Live Gold members. At $50/year that's approximately $2,300,000,000 they're making every year. The console itself isn't supposed to profit. None of the Xbox or Playstation consoles ever made a profit. So the math is out. The Xbox One is not a failure. It has surpassed the Xbox 360 in sales. It has lost less money than the Xbox 360. They still have billions in revenue coming in from Xbox Live Gold. The Xbox One is, empirically, not a failure.
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Your "math" is invalid. In order to calculate the profits/unit for the Xbox One you have to consider the following:
1.) The "math" does not account for the fact that price of DDR3 continually becomes more expensive as time goes on, the Xbox One will cost more now as a result. Because the general market is paying more, doesn't mean that M$ didn't lock in or even get a better deal
2.) The "math" does not include shipping Tell us how much that is?
3.) The "math" does not include packaging Tell US how much that is?
4.) The "math" doe not include retailer cuts Retailers do get about $5 for every console sold...
5.) The "math" does not factor warranty costs What amount is that?
6.) The "math" does not factor returns What # is that?
If your going to state things as facts, at least try to be accurate. I'm not even taking things like the $100 million dollar NFL deal into consideration. The NFL deal is covering a large number of M$ products To help you out we'll consider all those failures as a sunk cost.
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its obvious from your various posts, you are now the official "DDR3 is more expensive" guy. You have beat that dead. See Bold above^^^
Point is, these arguments are based on guesstimates of what the cost to manufacture, package,ship, advertise, warranty. How can we really know? So, you guess one number and they guess another. You have to just accept that there is no "winner" in these arguments.
