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Yakuzaice said:
 

It's not a bad sign, it's just not a sign that the Wii U will double in 2015.  Mario Kart, Smash, Amiibo, the gamepad, free online, cheaper than the PS4/XBO all of that was there in December and it only saw single digit percentage growth YoY.

Thats my point.. Not a bad sign..   I agree.. (and you could also say.. 15% up ww.. for the year)

And yes.. MK8. Smash. Amiibo (and the gamepad) was out in dec 2014 also.. (but lot of "casuals" did'nt know about it.. they will first really see it this year.. And new games like splatton and Mariomaker  (and other) will futher get the casual more interestet.. imo

 

This isn't a matter of opinion where we can compromise.  It isn't 103% or 107%.

You could have made the same argument a year ago and replaced those games with Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, and Smash.  Much more proven sellers than the three you listed.  Yet the Wii U was still down in Japan for 2014.  Three weeks into 2015 and it is down 35% based on Media Create numbers.

Your original point was actually more than 100%, but if you want to drop it to 77% then we're getting somewhere.

First.. you said that japan being down 25% would require west to up 125% to double.

Then I point out that.. that is not the case.. becourse Japan only stood for 16% of last years WiiU sales.

I say why you are wrong on the math.. and do a quik headmath (and 103%.. more in west to reach double sales..  Is think is pretty spot on)


(instead of sayin.. "yes your right" I was to fast.. you start to nicpick the numbers.. come on)

In my world a estimate of double sale.. do not have to 100% spot on.. And it would infact be insane if WiiU hit it that precis (+-0%)

All my post in this tread talk about double sales (6,2 instead of 7,2 it was a "key error" my mistake) 

But what do you mean.. can you see and 77% increase happen.. (becourse then we are getting some where.. yes :)

 

Being up 5% in January is better than 2014 and might be a good sign in general, but it is not a good sign for the Wii U doubling in 2015.

In the first five months of 2014 the Wii U did 310k in the US.  Let's say it is up 30% this year, that's a good sign right?  That would put it at 403k.  However if it needs 125% in the US to double worldwide that means in just those months it would already have a deficit of 294.5k.  If June was also only up 30% that would add another 133k.  Now the last half of the year needs to be up 163%.

5% up in jan..  do not show other that it sold better than last year.. I agree

The actual % in any month.. do not mean that much.. Some month in 2014 was very low other much higher..

So in some month.. you could see a +250% increas from last year..  and some month could even be down (examble MK8 month)

Point is.. We talk the hole year.. not one month. (just for the record.. 250% is an examble.. so don't ask about what month)

 

This just brings us back to what I was talking about earlier.  If MK8 and Smash are the real system sellers, why did they not demonstrate this remarkable console selling ability in November and December 2014?  What will be the switch that will suddenly be flipped in 2015 to cause people to buy a Wii U for MK8 and Smash?  Of those three 2015 system sellers you listed, the first one out is in May.  Is the Wii U going to be doubling prior to that?

I have said it many times now..

More value.. and what i whote in the first answer in this post.

And "please understand" that just becourse a "casual" don't got  a 8 gen console in 2014.. they still could get one 2015

Have bolded my answers again.. would like to know how you do the text boxes..:)

 

I think you just have to except.. that I have this believe

In the comming month.. we will see if WiiU do better and if a "duoble" at the end of 2015 is achiveble