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DanneSandin said:
IFireflyl said:


Then what was the point in starting this thread if you knew the answer (e.g. The Xbox One is not a failure)? From what you just said it seems like you only started this thread to watch people argue, and turn on each other. If I know that humans walked on the moon (for arguments sake lets just say I was there) then I'm not going to start a thread saying "Do you think humans walked on the moon?" We know that there are two sides (humans either walked on the moon, or it was staged), so the only reason for me to start that thread, when I know humans walked on the moon, would be to watch people argue.

I don't claim to have the answer. I've said that in some aspects it's a failure but in others it's a success. It's an interesting discussion to be had, as you can read in this thread. And if we're not allowed to discuss things like this, why even visit a forum then? Why make a thread like "Best game of all time?", or "most anticipated game 2015"? You know what YOU liked the best and are looking forward the most, right? So half the topics here would disappear. And your example is a rather bad one, if you don't min me saying so. This topic about XB1 has more layers and nuances than just two sides. It can be an utter failure, a huge success, a disappointment or a moderate success. Sp, tell me, which one is XB1?


Those thread examples you gave were all opinion based threads. The success or failure of the Xbox One is not opinion. There are actual facts that prove that it is, or is not, a success/failure. The only way this could have been an opinion-based discussion (really) would have been to ask, "Do you think the Xbox One was a letdown?" Or something similar anyways. Success/failure is based on proof, and facts. The proof and facts show that the Xbox One is not a failure.

@wangjingwanjia: Good research. I could have done it, but lazy. :)