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DanneSandin said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Success in terms of sales? Yes
Success in terms of game sales? Yes
Success in quality which helps the PS4 today? Yes
Success in making Sony money? No

Success in terms of sales? Really? It barely made second place and it lost a lot of sales and market share PS2 had gained.

Success doesn't exist on a single relative field. It may not have been as big a success as the PS2, but 85m units (probably around 90 - 95m LT) is still a sales success. If it weren't then every Nintendo and MS home console, bar one, could be considered a failure in that respect, which would obviously be silly (even the Wii/PS1 would be cutting it close).

OT: I wouldn't say the PS3 was a success or a failure; it's sitting in somewhat of a grey area (similar to the 360). In many respects, such as market share and profitability, it was a failure compared to its predecessor. On the other hand though, despite Sony's colossus early gen fuck ups, it ended up being able to maintain the brand's reputation, and still made it a lot closer to the PS1's doorstep (install base) than anyone would have guessed. Had it not been for those latter two factors, the PS4 likely wouldn't have been able to achieve its current success.

I'd personally consider it slightly more of a failure than a success, but not by enough to use the word definitively.