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Protendo said:

I think things are getting muddy as there is a difference between being a corporate/business failure and to being a failure from a gamer’s perspective.

Some of the biggest corporate failures were my favorite consoles and the biggest success as a gamer.

Sega Saturn had amazing exclusives, and the best import scene around but it was a huge corporate flop.
Dreamcast was revolutionary at the time and I was glad to be part of it.
PSV had wonderful hardware and some really wonderful games, and was a success to me as a gamer but a flop on the business side.
Sega Nomad was a business disaster, but man was it great.
N64/GameCube both were great consoles to own but a failure regarding market share, while the N64 wasn't a flop it was a failure in a lot of ways.  Which lead to GameCube being a failure, but man were they great systems to own as a gamer.
 

I don’t think the Xbox One is a failure from a gamers perspective, but from a corporate/stockholders perspective it’s a dud.  A failure is still a failure no matter how much money you have to throw at it.  Losing money on it's own merits is a failure.

 

 

 

You hit the nail on the head. Well spoken. This seems to be confusing most people in this thread so far.