Protendo said: I think things are getting muddy as there is a difference between being a corporate/business failure and to being a failure from a gamer’s perspective. Some of the biggest corporate failures were my favorite consoles and the biggest success as a gamer. Sega Saturn had amazing exclusives, and the best import scene around but it was a huge corporate flop. I don’t think the Xbox One is a failure from a gamers perspective, but from a corporate/stockholders perspective it’s a dud. A failure is still a failure no matter how much money you have to throw at it. Losing money on it's own merits is a failure.
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You hit the nail on the head. Well spoken. This seems to be confusing most people in this thread so far.