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Landguy said:
DerNebel said:
teigaga said:

I personally would say 25m is the absolute max, 20m is certain in my opinion though
Reason being
New pricepoint: XBox only spent Nov and December at its 349 pricepoint, the majority of the year it was either more expensive or equal to PS4. We all saw how its sales exploded in November, obviously it was partially down to the big games (Halo MCC, COD, GTA)  and Holiday bump, but we saw its sales jump proportionally bigger then the PS4's due to the new pricepoint. On that basis alone its reasonable to expect things to be up YOY, throughout the majority of 2015 it will cheaper then the competition something Xbox was not last year.

Xbox is out in all regions, unlike last year where it didn't launch everywhere till Q3. A small but notable add to its sales being up YOY.

Big holiday momentum. We all saw how much big microsoft numbers were in Q4 and no one predicted them to be that high, it sold 6m in the second half of 2014.That is going to have a trigger effect on how it does during the beginning of this year, we all know that people don't just buy systems in a isolate manner they get what they're friends have. With the gains xbox had recently, it should snowball into better sales going forward, the system now has a positive buzz surrounding and is no longer the flop system with DRM.forced kinect etc. Of course with  COD/GTA/Halo/AC Unity/ Dragon Age/Far Cry all continuing to push hardware sales for the next month or so, I think its sales will be strong in Q1. 

Superior software line up over 2014. Last year Xbox Q1/Q2 had Theif (cross gen), tomb raider (a year old remaster), titanfall (cross gen) and Watch dogs (cross gen)at the very end of May. Compare that to this years line up consisting mostly of next gen exclusives: Dying Light, Evolve, Final Fantasy Type 0, Witcher 3, Batman Arkham Knight, Dead Island 2 and cross gen titles like Battlefield and Mortal Combat. In what world would sales not be up significantly at comparing the line ups. I'm assuming Evolve and Witcher 3 are big hits which isn't garunteed but if you want to keep up with gaming in the next few months you're gonna need either a PC, PS4 or Xbox One somethin that wasn't the case last year. 

Superior fall line up. Quantum break, Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Forz 6, The Division, StarWars Battlefront 3, Hitman (all next gen exclusives- probably plenty more yet to be announced, maybe even COD? unlikely but possible). I expect Microsoft to be just as competetive as they were this year and hit the 299 pricepoint during the holiday. 

I think across both PS4/X1 sales will explode, the most simple reason being developers have finally moved on from last gen so gamers will be forced to aswell.

You gave a good enough explanation for why the system should be up YoY, which I'd say nobody really tried to deny, but 25 million still seems to very much be stretching the realms of possibility. That would be an utterly insane YoY increase and kinda need Sony to just sit there and do nothing all year, which I find highly unlikely.

M$ has double the sales for the 2 months that we have data for in it's second year.  So, it doubled NOV and DEC which were launch months the previous year.

Why with all of the facts that teigaga stated (now world wide and price being 30-40% lower for most if not whole year) would the sales not be nearly double all year?  

Everyone seems to think that the PS4 should sell that well without any consideration to the obvious fact that the happy feelings towards the PS4 are now being matched by the XB1(in the US anyway).  IF the XB1 is cheaper than the PS4 and no longer has the stink on it like it had last year, it should bump into the same sales area as the PS4 of 2014.  That doesn't mean the PS4 can't sell 3 million more than it did last year and still increase it's lead though... 

First sentence is totally wrong.

 

Everything in your post is totally wrong.. The x1 is NOT the ps4.....it will not match Ps4 sales, it will not sell well outside US and uk, please explain how x1 will get these sales with it selling poorly everywhere but US uk? Ps4 has a killer lineup and its first price drop coming. explain what countries will x1 gain all these sales from?

 

X1 is not even winning the US. The x1 would have to dominate ps4 in the US just to stay within a few million worldwide....it is not even outselling ps4 now the holidays are over, despite being cheaper. The holiday boost was a short term fix to a long term issue, it just moved sales up, now x1 sales in US are dropping below ps4 again. This is imply unfeasible.